March 16th, 2008 - Gerald-283546 said:
Well, looks like it's just a little more sophisticated than I thought. Tradition, reiterated in Vatican II, is that there is a hierarchy of holidays within the liturgical year. Sunday is first because it celebrates the Resurrection. Each Sunday is a mini Easter. Next comes other celebrations of the mystery of salvation, such as the Incarnation, Birth, Passion, and Ascension of Jesus Christ and the coming of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. Third in precedence are the Marion feasts, and fourth are the feasts of the other saints. See Sacrosanctum Concilium: The Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy.
Thus, not only St. Patrick but St. Joseph has been moved out of Holy (Passion) week and might have been moved to the week after the Octave of Easter. St. Joseph was moved from the 19th to today, the 15th.
So apparently what it seems is really going on is that the Irish Bishops asked that instead of St. Pat's moving to the 31st of March, it be moved only to the 15th in Ireland so that it would more closely track the customary secular festivities, while still being moved out of Holy Week.
Have I got this right?
Fireworks tonight in Melaque! Celebrate by saying the Breastplate.
March 12th, 2008 - Gerald-283546 said:
My understanding is that last year the Irish bishops conference asked the Vatican if they could move the celebration of St. Patrick's Day from the 17th March to the 15th this year so that it would not fall within Holy Week. The idea is to keep the public celebrations and accompanying drinking that normally occur out of the week that all Christians are supposed to mark with sober reflection and prayer. The Vatican granted their request making it optional for each bishops conference to decide.
There is precedence for this as it was done in 1913, the last time, I think, that St. Pat's fell during Holy Week.
Of course St. Pat's almost always falls within Lent, and so it is an issue for Irishmen who give up alcohol for Lent. My Dad used to say that all Irishment have a dispensation for St. Pat's from Lenten Observance. Of course this is more of a self granted dispensation that anything official or approved!
I am currently near the town of San Patricio de Melaque, in Jalisco, Mexico. Their patron is St. Patrick and generally a wild week of festivities is planned. Here in Mexico there is an interesting tension between the anti-religious secular part of society and the devoutness of many of the people. It will be interesting to see how this overlap into Holy Week is handled here.
Anyway, I guess I'll have the Jamesons on Saturday, if that is more in keeping with the tenor of Semana Santa.
March 11th, 2008 - John-304395 said:
I read the newspapers,listen to the news reports and also frequently read news on the internet daily(mostly conservative sites).I have not seen anything regarding a pronouncement by the Vatican forbidding celebrations.If true this is especially ironic since the Eastern and Western churches dont even agree as to which day is Easter in any given year(Catechism of the Catholic Church 1170).I tend to be on the side of the conservatives in the Church but this is ridiculous.If this pronouncement has indeed been made 90+% of Catholics that traditionally celebrate St. Patricks Day will ignore it.