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05/18/2012 new
(Quote) Sue-82886 said: Hi Tammy, I was waiting for someone to talk about this book because a co-worker read the whole trilogy. She keeps ...
(Quote) Sue-82886 said:

Hi Tammy, I was waiting for someone to talk about this book because a co-worker read the whole trilogy. She keeps saying if you skip over the sex stuff, it's a beautiful story with a plot. I told her I didn't have an interest in reading it after I first heard about it one morning on GMA. She tells everyone to read it for the story and always says you have to get over the "dirty stuff" but it's a great story. I have to say that Missy's quote summed it up best. I work in a catholic hospital and this woman even told Sr. Mary about it! I'm laughing as I type that because I'm good friends with Sr. Mary and keep forgetting to tease her about using that as an opportunity to bring the co-worker back to the catholic church. I can see her blushing now. The co-worker grew up catholic and is a christian but doesn't practice catholicism. I think a book like that is only inviting Satan to grab ahold of the reader for the ruin of their souls.

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Poor Sr. Mary! laughing I'm sure she has seen and heard worse than the content of a book though. Y'all will certainly need to take this time and share our faith with her. I wouldn't recommend starting off with the whole 'inviting Satan to grab ahold of the reader for the ruin of their soul' discussion though. biggrin
05/18/2012 new
(Quote) Stacey-101742 said: I haven't heard of the book . I am so busy with my own studies and interests , I wouldn't want to spen...
(Quote) Stacey-101742 said:

I haven't heard of the book . I am so busy with my own studies and interests , I wouldn't want to spend my time reading something like that , whats the point ? Teasing myself for what ??? How does that glorify God ? I am happy with my words with friends and all the books I am trying to tackle on the history of our faith /church / spirituality / etc . etc . I must have about 30 books stacked and I read a little at a time , cause my work day is so scattered but fulfilling working with special needs children.




I try to tell myself on matters as you have asked here , can I read that and feel good about myself if Christ were sitting next to me ? And that usually solves it in a heart beat . lol hands down ... lol




but it is interesting to hear other people share and see where their heart and mind are focused , how they think , where they are at in their own life , I always walk away learning more about people and life .

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That seems simple enough... Nice perspective Stacey - thank you.
05/18/2012 new
(Quote) Linda-624584 said: Hi Tammy, Since this is free posting month, I had to come back and comment on ...
(Quote) Linda-624584 said:

Hi Tammy,





Since this is free posting month, I had to come back and comment on this.





I'm wondering if there is a male version of this book? Maybe..."Fifty Shades of Pink"





Also wondering if my library would bann it as well????

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laughing Maybe they already have it! You think any of the guys would fess up and tell us! wink
05/18/2012 new

CM women take up miles of bandwidth in these forums condemning men for looking at pornographic images. meanwhile, women have their own forms of pornography - hot sexy "romance" novels foremost among them.


it goes steadily downhill from there: raunchy "bachelorette" parties; hen parties; images, movies.


women aren't much better than men in this regard.


remember that pornography of whatever type always degrades everyone who comes into contact with it.

05/18/2012 new
(Quote) Tara-539245 said: Sex in the City - Oh my goodness... A colleague of mine loaned me all of he...
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Sex in the City - Oh my goodness... A colleague of mine loaned me all of her boxed set since I love NYC. I told her I'd seen a few eps on TV (while grading papers or doing grad school homework... lol... not REALLY watching it), but I'd check it out. I couldn't get through disc 1. Obviously, the reruns on TV had stuff cut out since it was basic cable.





I have read a lot of Christian books, and they always say how men are more visual and women are more about the "storyline" to fantasize. I'm sure this isn't 100% accurate, but I guess it's common knowledge for the majority.

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I see what you're saying. I misunderstood you originally. I agree. Men through the eyes - Women through their minds. Yup.

I haven't seen Sex in the City in years but, I remember liking the show. I have noticed that I have an uneasiness with watching shows that are more racy when I've not watched TV for a long period of time.

I always enjoy your posts Tara, thank you!
05/18/2012 new
(Quote) David-364112 said: CM women take up miles of bandwidth in these forums condemning men for looking at pornographic images. meanwhi...
(Quote) David-364112 said:

CM women take up miles of bandwidth in these forums condemning men for looking at pornographic images. meanwhile, women have their own forms of pornography - hot sexy "romance" novels foremost among them.




it goes steadily downhill from there: raunchy "bachelorette" parties; hen parties; images, movies.




women aren't much better than men in this regard.




remember that pornography of whatever type always degrades everyone who comes into contact with it.

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I agree with the premise of your ramblings but, in the context of this thread - I'm not of the opinion that the book is pornographic.
05/18/2012 new

(Quote) Tammy-492301 said: I agree with the premise of your ramblings but, in the context of this thread - I'm not of t...
(Quote) Tammy-492301 said:

I agree with the premise of your ramblings but, in the context of this thread - I'm not of the opinion that the book is pornographic.
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exciting carnal desires by describing sexual activity in an enticing way is pornography. it doesn't have to be raunchy to be porn.

05/18/2012 new
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I always suspected you might be naughty! It's the innocent ones you have to watch out for!








Where in the world did you get the idea I was INNOCENT???











Donna,

I was wondering the same thing.


Blessings,

Leon






Speaking of naughty... How are you Leon.



Ms. Tammy,

Life is going great. Thank you for asking.

Regarding your thread - I have not read those books. In fact, I am not familiar with the title. So, can't comment on something I know nothing about. I will say though I have read novels that probably had some of the same themes. In my opinion, I do not feel I was sinning by reading them and certainly did not "act out" or fantasize about the characters. At my age, I look at life like this - if by now I don't know what is going to cause me to sin or be an occasion of sin, I never will.

Just my fickle way of looking at life.

Always enjoy your threads and posts.

Blessings always and hope life is going good for you and to you. Hope the children are doing fine.



Leon

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I hear you and understand you Leon. This subject is probably more along the 'walking a fine line' but, I certainly understand. It's much like the topic of yoga. Is yoga a detriment to your soul or are you strong enough in your faith to drop the unnecessary parts and just do the exercise. You know what's right from wrong.... Which allows you to live in the world, live your faith and share this through the way you live you life.
05/18/2012 new
(Quote) Angie-70288 said: I've read them and to answer at least one of your questions I do feel banning the books is an over reaction....
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I've read them and to answer at least one of your questions I do feel banning the books is an over reaction. People can either choose to read them or not. I'm sure there are people out there who would argue freedom of speech and whatnot.

While I feel at the heart of the books lies a love story, it is pretty intense. I can completely understand why some people could find it detrimental or be adverse to it. That said, I feel secure enough with myself to be able to sit down and read a book and not want to translate it to reality. The only book I'm interested in mimicking is the Bible...

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Thanks for sharing this Angie. I suspect a number of women have read the book and are down right scared eyepopping to post it in the forum. laughing It can sometimes get a bit rough around here.

I do love your statement about mimicking the bible. I agre in that's what we should all strive for as we trip, get lost and focus on the path that leads us to Christ. theheart
05/18/2012 new

(Quote) Tammy-492301 said: There have been a few articles and TV segments on the topic of the Fifty Shades of Grey books as ...
(Quote) Tammy-492301 said:

There have been a few articles and TV segments on the topic of the Fifty Shades of Grey books as of late. A couple of states have banned the books; because, they categorized the book as 'porn'.

They author states it's a romance novel while most agree it falls in the erotic literature category.

I'm just going to throw out a couple of questions... Feel free to answer one or all or simply share your opinion. Have you read the book(s)? Would your Catholic faith prevent you from reading them? Is it appropriate for a single adult to read novels such as this? Is it appropriate for a married woman or couple to read this book? Do you think banning the books in public libraries is an over-reaction or a sound decision? If you have read it - Why do you think this book steps over a line whereas, other romance novels do not?

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The erotic novel "Fifty Shades of Grey" may have topped recent bestseller charts, but it's proven a little too hot for librarians in east central Florida.

According to Florida Today,the Brevard County Public Library system has removed copies of the book from its 17 libraries.

"We bought some copies before we realized what it was," Cathy Schweinsberg, library services director, told the newspaper. "We don't collect porn."

However, as the Post points out, the libraries still offer copies of "The Complete Kama Sutra," "Lady Chatterley's Love," and "Tropic of Cancer," all of which are erotic literary classics.

"["Fifty Shades of Grey"] is not a classic," Schweinsberg responded.

ABC2News.com reports that more than a quarter of a million copies of the book have so far been sold

*titled editted to be a little less.... shocking?

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"Banned" is a loaded word and misused in this case. The book is still available to people in those jurisdictions via interlibrary loan, Amazon, B&N, etc; the government (in this case, the public library) is just choosing not to purchase it/carry it. They choose to purchase or not purchase thousands of books a year. Are all the other unpurchased books also "banned"? Of course not. Public libraries are responsible to the community and therefore have to use money to purchase items with wide appeal that meet community standards. Whoever is responsible for collection management there probably has seen the book on several lists and purchased it on the basis of that; there is a good chance they didn't know what the firestorm the book tends to cause.

Anyway, this book offends primarily because I enjoy literature. This book started out an internet fan fiction and then as an e-book. It only got a publisher because, as David mentioned, porn for housewives is still a socially acceptable way to make $$$$.

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