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Waiting on the annulment has broken up some romances started right here in these Forums.. I can think of two right off the top of my head.
People use some common sense. THIS IS WHY THERE SHOULD BE NO DATING BEFORE SOMEONE HAS AN ANNULMENT!
Going back to the point of MY WHOLE MISSIVE.. There are many priests out there encouraging people to date while they are waiting for their annulment..
You can say that til you are blue in the face Madonna.. But a majority of members here are going to ignore you, because in the end, they are here to date.. If one can't even get them to read the fine print that they must have a final divorce decree and they set up a profile here WHILE THEY ARE STILL LEGALLY MARRIED, what hope is there that they won't date until there is an annulment?
David-364112 said: the annullment isn't like a catholic divorce. it means the marriage never existed or was defectively formed to begin with.
In fact, the official teaching of the Catholic Church is that there is no divorce. "The two become one flesh." In the case of an annulment, the marriage never truly existed in the eyes of the Church. In this day and age, thank heavens for annulment because most Catholics do not have proper formation when they have reached the cultural common marrying age of early to mid 20s.
Do you think? That is probably why in 1983 the Pope added 1095.2 to Canon Law, just saying!
You are so wrong! My annulment took 2 years to come to fruition. It only takes a short period of time if the person you wish to marry was married outside of the church and is divorced. Then the Catholic Church deems it as never to have happened. But it the person you want to marry is Catholic, and you are Catholic, and either one of you were ever married in the Catholic Church before, then you will be waiting 2 to 3 years for all of the paper work to be completed. Be certain that you have the correct answers before answering a forum as this.
I was regretfully married to the the man of my Catholic Vows for 27 years and trying to find friends who remember our relationship during our dating time frame was difficult to come by.
"Many parish priests are not sufficiently educated in annulments and give incorrect information.." This is a direct quote of yours, where do you get on your high horse and get to delclare this! What a LIE!!! You do not know what you are talking about.
"You may want to call your local Tribunal and ask them." This is the only piece of advice that you gave that was correct.
27 years? try 40 years!
This thread has over 1700 hits. There are some people who are searching for truth.
There is some kind of weird multiplication that happens in the Forums.. Number of views doesn't mean that 1700 independent people have viewed the thread. I view Threaded.. Every time I look at a post it is a new view.. If I go back and look at the same post multiple times it is recorded as a new view every time.. So I could be singly responsible for many views in a thread.. Then you have Flat View.. How that figures into the views I have no idea.. If a person is making multiple posts in a thread, every time they leave the thread and come back they are causing new views.. Even if they are not posting in it but just reading. Non divorced people read in here all the time for instance. How views are calculated is one of the things I least understand about how the site works..
That's not true. In the case of an annulment it means that the marriage DID EXIST. It just didn't meet the requirements for a Sacramental marriage.
This is a common misperception. A valid marriage between baptized Christians is always sacramental; a marriage where at least one spouse is not baptized may be valid but is never sacramental. (Note the wording of the declaration from the decree Barbara posted: "this Tribunal has declared the marriage between xxx and yyy null and void since its inception.") Note that if a marriage is valid at its inception, it cannot be nullified regardless of what happens subsequently (although later events are evaluated for evidence of a defect at the time of inception).
The term 'annulment' is misleading in that it gives the perception that the state of the marriage is changed (nullified). The formal name, a decree of nullity, is a much better representation of what actually occurs.