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I'm hoping we can use this thread to share information about our Blessed Mother Mary.

I posted the following in another thread, but since it relates to our Blessed Mother Mary,
I will post it again here:

God has to have two pictures of us: one is what we are, and the
other is what we ought to be. He has the model, and He has the reality: the blueprint
and the edifice, the score of the music and the way we play it. God has to have
these two pictures because in each and every one of us there is some disproportion
and want of conformity between the original plan and the way we have worked it out.
The image is blurred; the print is faded. For one thing, our personality is not
complete in time; we need a renewed body. Then, too, our sins diminish our personality;
our evil acts daub the canvas the Master Hand designed. Like unhatched eggs, some
of us refuse to be waned by the Divine Love which is so necessary for incubation
to a higher level. We are in constant need of repairs; our free acts do not coincide
with the law of our being; we fall short of all God wants us to be. St. Paul tells
us that we were predestined, before the foundations of the world were laid, to become
the sons of God. But some of us will not fulfill that hope. There is, actually,
only one person in all humanity of whom God has one picture, and in whom there is
a perfect conformity between what He wanted her to be and what she is, and that
is His Own Mother. Most of us are a minus sign, in the sense that we do not fulfill
the high hopes the Heavenly Father has for us. But Mary is the equal sign. The Ideal
that God had of her, that she is, and in the flesh. The model and the copy are perfect;
she is all that was foreseen, planned, and dreamed. The melody of her life is played,
just as it was written. Mary was thought, conceived, and planned as the equal sign
between ideal and history, thought and reality, hope and realization. That is why,
through the centuries, Christian liturgy has applied to her the words of the Book
of Proverbs. Because she is what God wanted us all to be, she speaks of herself
as the Eternal blueprint in the Mind of God, the one whom God loved before she was
a creature. She is even pictured as being with Him not only at creation, but before
creation. She existed in the Divine Mind as an Eternal Thought before there were
any mothers. She is the Mother of mothers SHE is THE WORLD'S FIRST LOVE.

- Archbishop Fulton J Sheen

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I would like to learn more about Mary's mantle. Does anyone know some of the things it may represent?

Oct 23rd 2012 new

(Quote) Valentin-119637 said: I would like to learn more about Mary's mantle. Does anyone know some of the things it...
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I would like to learn more about Mary's mantle. Does anyone know some of the things it may represent?

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Protection, purity, grace, faith, and more.

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I actually just finished a fantastic book about Mary by Scott Hahn called Hail, Holy Queen. It really opened my eyes to who Mary is to us, as Catholics.


For those outside the church, and for recent converts like me, the role of Mary just isn't explained as clearly as it should be. Last night, after I finished that book, which I plan to read again because it was SO amazing, I almost came on CM and created a thread about Mary, so I am so glad you did!


I was absoultely blown away after reading that book and getting a better picture of who Mary is, why she is so important, and how Catholics differ from Protestants in their view of Mary.


It is really the first time I have ever fully realized that Mary is OUR MOTHER. I felt like screaming for joy! It just never really fully "sunk in"!!!! Cathoilcs (oh yeah, I am one now) always struck me as a bit stoic, maybe even austere? And I actually LIKE that. But the Catholic understanding of Mary just makes the entire Gospel make sense.

How incredibly lucky are we that Mary is our mother, too! I mean, talk about hitting the jackpot!!!!! Some of us had human mothers that were, oh, just a tad neurotic. So, to realize that God has adopted us into His family, and we have the most perfect mother in the history of the world???? I slept with my rosary last night because now I finally get it. I thought all those Hail Mary's were some formality! Far, far from it.


What I am NOT understanding, though, is that, if this makes sense to me, and I am blown away by the realization that we have such a perfect Mother, why on earth, when I have tried just about every single Christian denomination and many other non-Christian religions, why has no one but the Catholic Church explained my family, OUR family???? They never mention Mary. I was Episcopal for years, and heard Mary mentioned at Christmas, as if she is relegated to some corner of the Christian world....

Oct 23rd 2012 new

(Quote) Marian-83994 said: Protection, purity, grace, faith, and more.
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Protection, purity, grace, faith, and more.

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Thank you sharing this information! biggrin

I found that our Blessed Mother Mary told St. Bridget that Her mantle is also Her humility:

The Virtues of the Blessed Virgin Mary
by St. Alphonsus de Liguori

Mary detests the proud, and invites the lowly to come to Her: Whosoever is a little one, let him come to Me (Prov. 9:4). Richard of St. Lawrence writes: “Mary protects us under the mantle of Her humility.” The Blessed Mother explained to St. Bridget what Her mantle was, “Come,” She said, “and hide yourself under My mantle. This mantle is My humility.” She then added that meditation on Her humility was a cloak or mantle with which we could warm ourselves. But since a mantle gives this service only to those who wear it and not to those who merely think about it, She said: “Mary’s humility will not help anybody except those who endeavor to imitate Her.” And She concluded with these words: “Therefore clothe yourself, My daughter, with this humility.”


Oct 23rd 2012 new

(Quote) Celia-821539 said: I actually just finished a fantastic book about Mary by Scott Hahn called Hail, Holy Queen. It re...
(Quote) Celia-821539 said:

I actually just finished a fantastic book about Mary by Scott Hahn called Hail, Holy Queen. It really opened my eyes to who Mary is to us, as Catholics.


For those outside the church, and for recent converts like me, the role of Mary just isn't explained as clearly as it should be. Last night, after I finished that book, which I plan to read again because it was SO amazing, I almost came on CM and created a thread about Mary, so I am so glad you did!


I was absoultely blown away after reading that book and getting a better picture of who Mary is, why she is so important, and how Catholics differ from Protestants in their view of Mary.


It is really the first time I have ever fully realized that Mary is OUR MOTHER. I felt like screaming for joy! It just never really fully "sunk in"!!!! Cathoilcs (oh yeah, I am one now) always struck me as a bit stoic, maybe even austere? And I actually LIKE that. But the Catholic understanding of Mary just makes the entire Gospel make sense.

How incredibly lucky are we that Mary is our mother, too! I mean, talk about hitting the jackpot!!!!! Some of us had human mothers that were, oh, just a tad neurotic. So, to realize that God has adopted us into His family, and we have the most perfect mother in the history of the world???? I slept with my rosary last night because now I finally get it. I thought all those Hail Mary's were some formality! Far, far from it.


What I am NOT understanding, though, is that, if this makes sense to me, and I am blown away by the realization that we have such a perfect Mother, why on earth, when I have tried just about every single Christian denomination and many other non-Christian religions, why has no one but the Catholic Church explained my family, OUR family???? They never mention Mary. I was Episcopal for years, and heard Mary mentioned at Christmas, as if she is relegated to some corner of the Christian world....

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I agree that were are increadibly lucky to have The Blessed Mother of God as our Mother as well! If we want to love God perfectly, there's no better way than to love God through Mary! biggrin

I'm not sure why the other Christian religions are afraid to love our Blessed Mother Mary. Perhaps The Holy Spirit has not revealed this Truth to them. I have read that wherever Mary goes, that's where The Holy Spirit can be found.

There are many beautiful books written about Mary by saints. The Glories of Mary written by St. Alphonsus Liguori is one of them! biggrin

Thank you for sharing your experiences with us! biggrin

Oct 23rd 2012 new

(Quote) Valentin-119637 said: Thank you sharing this information! I found that our Blessed Mother Mary t...
(Quote) Valentin-119637 said:




Thank you sharing this information!

I found that our Blessed Mother Mary told St. Bridget that Her mantle is also Her humility:

The Virtues of the Blessed Virgin Mary
by St. Alphonsus de Liguori

Mary detests the proud, and invites the lowly to come to Her: Whosoever is a little one, let him come to Me (Prov. 9:4). Richard of St. Lawrence writes: “Mary protects us under the mantle of Her humility.” The Blessed Mother explained to St. Bridget what Her mantle was, “Come,” She said, “and hide yourself under My mantle. This mantle is My humility.” She then added that meditation on Her humility was a cloak or mantle with which we could warm ourselves. But since a mantle gives this service only to those who wear it and not to those who merely think about it, She said: “Mary’s humility will not help anybody except those who endeavor to imitate Her.” And She concluded with these words: “Therefore clothe yourself, My daughter, with this humility.”

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Thank you Valentin. This is so true!

Oct 23rd 2012 new

(Quote) Celia-821539 said: I actually just finished a fantastic book about Mary by Scott Hahn called Hail, Holy Queen. It re...
(Quote) Celia-821539 said:

I actually just finished a fantastic book about Mary by Scott Hahn called Hail, Holy Queen. It really opened my eyes to who Mary is to us, as Catholics.


For those outside the church, and for recent converts like me, the role of Mary just isn't explained as clearly as it should be. Last night, after I finished that book, which I plan to read again because it was SO amazing, I almost came on CM and created a thread about Mary, so I am so glad you did!


I was absoultely blown away after reading that book and getting a better picture of who Mary is, why she is so important, and how Catholics differ from Protestants in their view of Mary.


It is really the first time I have ever fully realized that Mary is OUR MOTHER. I felt like screaming for joy! It just never really fully "sunk in"!!!! Cathoilcs (oh yeah, I am one now) always struck me as a bit stoic, maybe even austere? And I actually LIKE that. But the Catholic understanding of Mary just makes the entire Gospel make sense.

How incredibly lucky are we that Mary is our mother, too! I mean, talk about hitting the jackpot!!!!! Some of us had human mothers that were, oh, just a tad neurotic. So, to realize that God has adopted us into His family, and we have the most perfect mother in the history of the world???? I slept with my rosary last night because now I finally get it. I thought all those Hail Mary's were some formality! Far, far from it.


What I am NOT understanding, though, is that, if this makes sense to me, and I am blown away by the realization that we have such a perfect Mother, why on earth, when I have tried just about every single Christian denomination and many other non-Christian religions, why has no one but the Catholic Church explained my family, OUR family???? They never mention Mary. I was Episcopal for years, and heard Mary mentioned at Christmas, as if she is relegated to some corner of the Christian world....

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Mary is the New Eve who is a vital participant in the "Economy of Salvation." Protestants translate key passages from scripture in an oppositional way. This began with Calvanists and continued with Martin Luther. These key scriptures which are translated differently and also lean the gospel message and focus on other passages, changing the emphasis of the gospel message and move Mary to the side. This is not how Catholics see it.

Oct 23rd 2012 new

(Quote) Marian-83994 said: Mary is the New Eve who is a vital participant in the "Economy of Salvation....
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Mary is the New Eve who is a vital participant in the "Economy of Salvation." Protestants translate key passages from scripture in an oppositional way. This began with Calvanists and continued with Martin Luther. These key scriptures which are translated differently and also lean the gospel message and focus on other passages, changing the emphasis of the gospel message and move Mary to the side. This is not how Catholics see it.

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Yes, Mary is the new Eve that always Trusts and Loves God perfectly! biggrin
Have you ever noticed that Eva spelled backwards is Ave? biggrin

Oct 23rd 2012 new

(Quote) Valentin-119637 said: (Quote) Marian-83994 said: Mary is the New Eve who is a...
(Quote) Valentin-119637 said:

Quote:
Marian-83994 said:



Mary is the New Eve who is a vital participant in the "Economy of Salvation." Protestants translate key passages from scripture in an oppositional way. This began with Calvanists and continued with Martin Luther. These key scriptures which are translated differently and also lean the gospel message and focus on other passages, changing the emphasis of the gospel message and move Mary to the side. This is not how Catholics see it.




Yes, Mary is the new Eve that always Trusts and Loves God perfectly!
Have you ever noticed that Eva spelled backwards is Ave?

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I have noticed this and thank you for reminding me of it! rose

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