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Really...had someone tell me this was a liberal idea...LOL. Liberal ideas are ideas that have to do with prodeath culture or anything not Christian. And are we to believe that 47% of this nation can't help themselves???? I think the longer people are made dependent, the more they lose the ability to get back onto their own two feet....better to find us jobs and give us pay then to just give us pay. I know both parties want to help the poor and that is a good thing....but we have to have more checks and balances for how to do that....making sure the money does't get wasted for instance. I know too many people who get social security checks and use it on drugs and alcohol and cigarettes instead of the kids....ways to make sure that doesn't happen....this would be a good party? Fact is...everyone else is going to quit trying too with things going the way they are.

Nov 12th 2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: Really...had someone tell me this was a liberal idea...LOL. Liberal ideas are ideas that have to...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

Really...had someone tell me this was a liberal idea...LOL. Liberal ideas are ideas that have to do with prodeath culture or anything not Christian. And are we to believe that 47% of this nation can't help themselves???? I think the longer people are made dependent, the more they lose the ability to get back onto their own two feet....better to find us jobs and give us pay then to just give us pay. I know both parties want to help the poor and that is a good thing....but we have to have more checks and balances for how to do that....making sure the money does't get wasted for instance. I know too many people who get social security checks and use it on drugs and alcohol and cigarettes instead of the kids....ways to make sure that doesn't happen....this would be a good party? Fact is...everyone else is going to quit trying too with things going the way they are.

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Also, how in the world can liberals say they believe in helping the less fortunate when they believe in killing babies...the MOST less fortunate...it just doesn't make any sense to me!

Nov 12th 2012 new

I think the truly less fortunate are those that suffer from mental and physical disabilities and then they really do need are help...but for others like me....they need to get someone in there who will CREATE JOBS not kill them!

Nov 12th 2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: I think the truly less fortunate are those that suffer from mental and physical disabilities and...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

I think the truly less fortunate are those that suffer from mental and physical disabilities and then they really do need are help...but for others like me....they need to get someone in there who will CREATE JOBS not kill them!

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I mean they need our help...typed too fast.

Nov 12th 2012 new

Also, I had a history course a while back that talked about how in Europe people were more willing to be taxed and let the govt. decide where it should go.....whereas in our country we were not (well, we weren't founded that way either); however, perhaps there has been a change in the tide now and the majority is ready to be taxed more thinking the govt is benevolent more so than private ministries and business...uh, physician assisted suicide, abortions....I don't think so!

Nov 12th 2012 new

I think I became more compassionate about politics after the socialist liberals started forcing me to pay for their abortions...where is my choice? They don't speak for this woman! Consequently, I think liberals only pretend to care more about the unfortunate....just isn't true. We do need to make the republican party, now the democrat party, do better at promoting helping the less fortunate as well as prolfe issues.

Nov 13th 2012 new

I once heard someoone suggest drug test for those receiving govt. aid...what do you think? I don't think that would stop the problem as their is still alcohol and cigarettes to waste the money on.

Nov 13th 2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: I think the truly less fortunate are those that suffer from mental and physical disabilities and...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

I think the truly less fortunate are those that suffer from mental and physical disabilities and then they really do need are help...but for others like me....they need to get someone in there who will CREATE JOBS not kill them!

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People cheat the system all the time. I know up here in NY, in schools, parents try to get their kids diagnosed
with Autism, even mild autism, or a disability, so they can get the extra help. I hear them talk about it. Now,
unfortunately, too many parents have gone that route, and the system is bankrupt. These kids are
currently left on their own, with no life jacket (so to speak) where they should have been in the first place, but it is a big
adjustment for them.


They should have been allowed to navigate the system on their own instead of cheat the system to get ahead. And
the property owners have been stuck with enormous assessments because up here the schools are funded by
property tax.

Nov 13th 2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: Really...had someone tell me this was a liberal idea...LOL. Liberal ideas are ideas that have to...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

Really...had someone tell me this was a liberal idea...LOL. Liberal ideas are ideas that have to do with prodeath culture or anything not Christian. And are we to believe that 47% of this nation can't help themselves???? I think the longer people are made dependent, the more they lose the ability to get back onto their own two feet....better to find us jobs and give us pay then to just give us pay. I know both parties want to help the poor and that is a good thing....but we have to have more checks and balances for how to do that....making sure the money does't get wasted for instance. I know too many people who get social security checks and use it on drugs and alcohol and cigarettes instead of the kids....ways to make sure that doesn't happen....this would be a good party? Fact is...everyone else is going to quit trying too with things going the way they are.

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I don't think illegals should tap into the social services (food stamps, etc.), but that is very controversal. It is bait for them
to come to this country, and to remain in this country.

Nov 13th 2012 new

(Quote) Marianne-100218 said: People cheat the system all the time. I know up here in NY, in schools, parents try to...
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said:



People cheat the system all the time. I know up here in NY, in schools, parents try to get their kids diagnosed
with Autism, even mild autism, or a disability, so they can get the extra help. I hear them talk about it. Now,
unfortunately, too many parents have gone that route, and the system is bankrupt. These kids are
currently left on their own, with no life jacket (so to speak) where they should have been in the first place, but it is a big
adjustment for them.


They should have been allowed to navigate the system on their own instead of cheat the system to get ahead. And
the property owners have been stuck with enormous assessments because up here the schools are funded by
property tax.

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You might be right...in South Texas, I knew one parent that found disabilities for both her kids and we had to fill out that paper work. I have a friend who hated doing this...she wasn't that popular to say the least. One of the disabilties is Fibromyalgia. The parent researched it and trained the kids. It is hard to prove someone doesn't have it or does have it. Meanwhile this kid would jump over desk in the classroom and not do any school work. I think it is sad because it makes it harder for the people who really do need the help to get it.

My original point is though is that both parties help the less fortunate and that republicans care just as much as liberals but get bad press to the contrary.

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