Hello. I'm new here. New to on-line dating, to this site, and to most of you.
I've had my fair share of tragedies, and I've helped friends through worse, including many with relatives suffering from mental illness. I takes a lot to disturb me, and an awful lot to sicken me.
This thread -- the conspiracy claims about Adam Lanza's assult last month; the claim that this is a New World Order scam; the suggestion that people involved in the tragedy are actors, or faking, or whatever else; and over all, the denial of human suffering -- all of it sickens me. I'm amazed to see such a discussion here, and I am ashamed to call myself Catholic, seeing people who would be so empty of compassion for grieving families, so quick to label honest people as frauds or villains, and to do so under the aegis of the Holy Church.
I appreciate that a couple of people have suggested that maybe things aren't as clear cut as all that. But I'm here to tell you, that if your thoughts on this tragedy don't begin and end with prayers: for the souls of the children, for their families, for the adults who gave their lives protecting them, and for the Newtown community, you need to think harder about what it means to be a Christian*.
A couple of other notes:
(Quote) Bernard-2709 said:
It would only be fair if we have Catholic Priests examine Politicians to determine who is evil,an...
(Quote) Bernard-2709 said:
It would only be fair if we have Catholic Priests examine Politicians to determine who is evil,and therefore fit or not to serve in Government!
Steven-706921 agrees, but doesn't think the liberal tribalists will allow it.
1) "Liberal tribalists?" How about ayone who believes in the sparation of Church and State? That's why we have the Establishment Clause of the Constitution. If you would have a problem with Shiite muslim imams interviewing every candidate to determine his or her fitness to hold office, or Bhuddist monks, or Hindu Kali-worshippers, then you should also have a problem with Catholic priests doing so. Because we don't give one religion dominance over another in this country.
1a) What is a "tribalist"?
2) I am trying to come up with a delicate way to say this. This side of the scandals that have beset the Holy Church in recent years, I don't think that Catholic priests have a very good track record of determining evil within their own ranks. It will take us some time to earn back the trust of the American people; until then, e are the very last group who should be passing judgement on anybody else's moral worth.
Jerry-74383 was bothered that some news agencies got some details about Adam Lanza's rampage wrong. I think it's understandable: Lanza deliberately left false trails, carried the wrong ID, etc. Jerry, I think these were honest mistakes by reporters trying to do their jobs as best they could. Do you think otherwise?
Do you think it would be better for the media to issue a news blackout until every fact was double-checked? That has a certain appeal to it, but I imagine that people would be even more vehement that there was a conspiracy, that the media were keeping facts from the public. Because the media would be doing so.
John-711000, the issue of "crisis actors" is a red herring. Such businesses exist, to train emergency response workers in realistic situations. I've worked in a hospital and seen crisis simulation teams in action. These businesses don't stage mock emergencies for the public. Even during a simulation, they never claim that an actual emergency is going on. They had nothing to do with the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting.
Lord, look over the souls that were taken into Your care that day, and those who remain.
--Still angry, and looking forward to meeting you all under happier circumstances,
* No seriously. Luke 13:4. When asked about the tragedy of the 18 who died when the tower in Siloam fell, Jesus didn't suggest it was a conspiracy of the Pharasees, or that maybe they were actors.