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Feb 17th 2013 new

(Quote) Naomi-698107 said: 54% of women having abortions were using contraception in the month they fell pregnant.<...
(Quote) Naomi-698107 said:

54% of women having abortions were using contraception in the month they fell pregnant.

That stat's from Guttmacher Inst. the research arm of Planned Parenthood.

Contraception is the reason we're in this damn mess in the first place.

There's what, 1.1 million abortions in America each year. That's 600,000 children murdered because of contraception failures and whopsies.

Six hundred thousand.

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Thank you Naomi. Very well stated.

Feb 17th 2013 new

I remember about 10 years ago I was at a Marian conference and in one afternoon two references were made:

3000 abortions take place everyday in America (it might be more now)...

And then the reading from Acts 2:41: 3000 were converted and baptized and added to the flock.

And I thought at the time, wow, all it would take to end abortion in America is to have the conversion of heart of 3000 mothers each day, and our country would be free of this horror.

Yes, the mothers are responsible ultimately for what happens to their baby. They make that decision for a variety of reasons, men, and their families, and the economy, and society in general has failed them, all true, but they do make the ultimate decision.

Feb 17th 2013 new

(Quote) Paul-866591 said: (Quote) Carole-893801 said: I believe the catholic church should make a dec...
(Quote) Paul-866591 said:

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Carole-893801 said:

I believe the catholic church should make a decision on whether or not using viagra is again Catholic teaching and God.


1)We all believe or asked to believe that abortion for what ever reason is against our teaching and church.
2) We all or are suppose to believe and practice ---NO premarital sex. Though I noticed that it is an option on this site.

If the above it true... Viagra also should be against Catholic believes and practice. God, whether directly or by medication is the one that chooses to make a man impotent. There maybe a very good reason God decided for the man to be impotent. His sperms maybe defective....Why put an innocent child through that misery. GOD is merciful. What gives humans the right to over ride GOD. We should not override GOD's decision in any matter when it comes to reproduction.
SEX is for reproduction and married couples. If sex in a marriage produces a handicapped child at least the child will have two loving parents. Handicapped children born by premarital sex are often raised solely by the mother since the father suddenly realizes that the church does not condone premarital sex.


What do other Catholic males or females think of the above. Agree or disagree and why?


The Church has not come out with an official position on Viagra. However, unlike the contraceptive pill, it does not cause any change in a man's body as "The Pill' does in a women. Nor does it directly interfere with the purpose of the function. So the church sees no problem with it.

It is interesting, however, to observe that research effort has centered on preventing conception in a women while enhancing the ability, so to speak, of a man to impregnate a women. Kind of interesting to reflect on the processes of the mind, what is considered important, doesn't it?

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A good response. Thanks Paul.

I ask that anyone wishing to comment further on the morality of using Viagra do so in the topic on that subject:

www.catholicmatch.com

I will be removing any further responses regarding Viagra from this topic to keep it from going off-topic. Thanks.

Feb 21st 2013 new

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Just ran across this on Facebook - its from the Elliott Institute - about coerced abortion:

www.facebook.com

and for those who aren't on FB:

www.afterabortion.org

Feb 23rd 2013 new

(Quote) Patrick-341178 said: I was just on facebook and read about the story of Jennifer Moribelli, a 29 year old woman who ...
(Quote) Patrick-341178 said:

I was just on facebook and read about the story of Jennifer Moribelli, a 29 year old woman who died of complications of an abortion at 33 weeks. Predictably, all the comments focused on the evil doctor and expressed sympathy for the baby and the mother. For starters, of course any doctor performing abortions, particularly late term abortions is evil. I pray that these doctors see the errors of their ways and repent or it is going to be a painful eternity. And of course, there is sympathy for the baby - particularly a 33 week preborn who was likely completely viable. (I imagine there probably was some health problem of some sorts with the mother and/or child, but that of course, is NOT the point).


But why, in the pro-life movement, do we have so much sympathy for these mothers? I understand that for PR reasons venom towards the doctor and our culture of death may make more sense than condemning the mothers, but the mothers are ultimately the one responsible. As horrific a decison that Roe v. Wade is, abortion is completely optional in just about the entire world with the exception of China. The reality is doctors mainly go into abortion practices NOT because they are evil and love killing babies - but because of the money. Regardless of whether abortion is legal or not (and of course we should pray that it gets banned throughout the world), abortion doctors wouldn't exist without patients. And what kind of world to do we live in where there is enough business of mothers willing to have their unborn babies killed at 33 weeks gestation?


As for Ms. Moribelli, I do feel sympathy for her friends and family. Also, I don't know the extent of her physical or mental deficiencies that may have helped lead her to make such a tragic decison. Furthermore, I do wish that God have mercy on her soul.


But do I really feel that Ms. Moritbelli's death is tragedy or feel much sympathy for her? No. Will someone explain why I should and why we always give mothers who choose abortion a pass?

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You are welcome to go to this thread if you want to for some food for thought of you truly are searching for an answer to your question.

Feb 23rd 2013 new

(Quote) Elizabeth-114955 said: (Quote) Patrick-341178 said: I was just on facebook and read about the...
(Quote) Elizabeth-114955 said:

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Patrick-341178 said:

I was just on facebook and read about the story of Jennifer Moribelli, a 29 year old woman who died of complications of an abortion at 33 weeks. Predictably, all the comments focused on the evil doctor and expressed sympathy for the baby and the mother. For starters, of course any doctor performing abortions, particularly late term abortions is evil. I pray that these doctors see the errors of their ways and repent or it is going to be a painful eternity. And of course, there is sympathy for the baby - particularly a 33 week preborn who was likely completely viable. (I imagine there probably was some health problem of some sorts with the mother and/or child, but that of course, is NOT the point).


But why, in the pro-life movement, do we have so much sympathy for these mothers? I understand that for PR reasons venom towards the doctor and our culture of death may make more sense than condemning the mothers, but the mothers are ultimately the one responsible. As horrific a decison that Roe v. Wade is, abortion is completely optional in just about the entire world with the exception of China. The reality is doctors mainly go into abortion practices NOT because they are evil and love killing babies - but because of the money. Regardless of whether abortion is legal or not (and of course we should pray that it gets banned throughout the world), abortion doctors wouldn't exist without patients. And what kind of world to do we live in where there is enough business of mothers willing to have their unborn babies killed at 33 weeks gestation?


As for Ms. Moribelli, I do feel sympathy for her friends and family. Also, I don't know the extent of her physical or mental deficiencies that may have helped lead her to make such a tragic decison. Furthermore, I do wish that God have mercy on her soul.


But do I really feel that Ms. Moritbelli's death is tragedy or feel much sympathy for her? No. Will someone explain why I should and why we always give mothers who choose abortion a pass?


You are welcome to go to this thread if you want to for some food for thought of you truly are searching for an answer to your question.

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Here is the forgotten link to the posting above. www.catholicmatch.com

Feb 23rd 2013 new

Wow, just read a couple of the reports. "Elementary school teacher buried with her daughter Madison", she died how much more accountable can she be held?


The doctor according to the news clips is one of only four in the US who will perform late term abortions. I am more shocked by a teacher who would abort, it only takes a short time with any special needs child to be exposed to the joy of that child. If the child through testing was identified as dying at birth regardless of medical intervention then again the doctor neither did the best for the mother nor the child. Other points mentioned were that it was a four day procedure, the couple traveled to the doctor, may have been told not to go to the emergency room for problems, left early, HEPA, and the increased threat to a women's life produced by late term abortion.


A man lost his child and his wife, a doctor provided the tools. Late term abortions should be deemed at least medically irresponsible. Prayers daily for those affected by abortion in anyway. It is a time surrounded by heavy hearts.

Feb 23rd 2013 new

It is a pragmatic necessity, for the pro-abortion advocates have made "The Well Being of the Mother" their choice and their standard that lift up.


The decision has been made long ago that we who value all life (not just grown up life) are to 'Compete in the Marketplace of Ideas' with this abomination we must equally be as positive about these women as they are.

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