(Quote) Jan-672216 said:
It is a difficult topic to approach Marianne. It's also difficult to ...
(Quote) Jan-672216 said:
It is a difficult topic to approach Marianne. It's also difficult to understand. I muse in my mind sometimes, wondering, trying to understand. I'm not stating the following as fact - just one of my wonderings: The Catholic Church teaches that homosexual acts are sinful (and I believe that they are). People in the Church have also taught that there are two life vocations to choose from: the married vocation, or religious life. What is a Catholic to do who suffers with same sex attraction? Especially if to admit thier inclination will most likely ostrasize them from loved ones? I am aware of Courage - a great group I'm sure. But pre-Courage - what did people do? It appears that more than a few entered religious life.
An Eastern Orthodox priest I knew (who converted from Catholicism to Orthodoxy way before the clergy sexual abuse scandals broke) said he believed that if the Catholic Church allowed their priests to marry they would attract more manly men. I don't know about anyone else out there, but I have not heard of this problem (pedophilia or epedophilia) being this rampant in the Orthodox churches - or teh Protestant communities for that matter. Perhpas he had a point.
The problem now is - what else can we do but educate ourselves and pray? A friend reminded me today that this is Christ's Church and we have Our Blessed Mother and all the angels and saints to intercede for us - but this is still very difficult. I commented that it is amazing that anyone comes into the Church today with all of this going on (not excluding awareness of my own personal unholiness in the limited circle of people whose lives I touch) and my friend replied exact evidence that this IS Christ's Church - people ARE still coming into the Church - God is still pouring out the grace souls need through His Church to bring us Home, and He will give us an answer to this crisis.
The fact is that as terrible as the scandal has been for the Church, the incidence in the Church is lower than in society in general; lower than in most other churches, substantially lower than in the public schools and other organizations where the young are in direct contact with adults. This type of abuse most often occurs in the home. Most often in a home where the couple is not married and the male is not the natural father of the child or youth involved.
The study that US Bishops had done clearly labeled the major part of the problem on homosexual priests. Why the Bishops have not spoken out specifically to that issue is hard to understand.
Although part of it may be the fact that society in general has a well entrenched Homosexual lobby that has largely succeeded in getting society to accept this perversion as an acceptable norm and positive good.
As someone has already noted, it is critical to properly label what was the root of the problem, pedophilia or epedophilia, because whereas pedophilia is a crime that men or women of any sexual orientation commit, epedophilia most often has a homosexual oriented person involved.
If the basic cause of the problem is ignored, than any solution adopted will be less than optimal because it will not be attacking the root cause.
What I find so interesting, in my younger years and until the 1970's, I had known and had contact with hundreds of priest and candidates for the priesthood. Not a single one sexually abused any of us or anyone I knew. Not one showed any homosexual tendencies. The only abuse of any kind I saw were those Jesuits in High school who believed a good solid slug to the head was an appropriate response to disobedience or disorderly conduct. And that can only be labeled as abuse in light of today's standards. It was SOP in society in those long ago days. The nuns did it in school and when you got home your Dad did because you did something that got you punished by the nuns or priests.
Of course now days, a parent doing that or teacher in school would be reported to Child Protective Services.