(Quote) Joanna-615441 said: I know why we have the vigil Mass (Jewish Day ends and begins at sundown) and this question is not abou...
(Quote) Joanna-615441 said: I know why we have the vigil Mass (Jewish Day ends and begins at sundown) and this question is not about the legitimacy or laziness factor. I have tried to find it on line and haven't been successful:
Where is it written that explains or pronounces the "time" of a vigil Mass must be after a certain hour? IE, does a 2:30 pm Saturday afternoon Mass also count as your Sunday privilege? (I don't like the word obligation, it is a privilege to attend Mass)
Please give me links and cold hard facts!
As far as the time of 4:00, I am at a loss.
The tradition is tied to Vespers, which is the evening prayer and which is recognized as the liturgical start of the next day. If you are abstaining from something during Lent, you are free to enjoy it after Vespers (and throughout Sunday). (My understanding is that there is a link between Vespers and sunset, although I don't think that Vespers "moves" with the times that the sun sets.)
As far as the 2:30 Mass fulfilling an obligation (or a priviledge, as you will), you can forget about it. (It would require a dispensation.)
It should be noted that the original intent of the Saturday evening Mass was to assist workers who had jobs on Sunday that made it difficult if not impossible to fulfill their Sunday obligation. (This was the intent of Pope Pius XII when he pushed for the idea and it was the original intent of the Church when the evening Mass was introduced in 1970.)
It seems that like everything else allowed Catholics in this country, an inch was given and a yard was taken.
From Father Ray Blake's blog (marymagdalen.blogspot.com I am in favour of offering Mass at times people will come, in the 1970s when the "Anticipated Mass" was introduced it was for those unable to attend Mass on the Lord's Day itself, there was mention of doctors and nurses and people who had to work. Now most seem to have people who no longer work but want Sundays free of Mass for some other purpose.For the most part the Saturday Mass is not the one which is attended by young people or by those who are actually forced to work.