(Quote) Edward-926612 said:
Watch and pray. That's all we can do. I know the family who runs Rorate Coeli --...
(Quote) Edward-926612 said:
Watch and pray. That's all we can do. I know the family who runs Rorate Coeli --- good people. Definitly not sedevacantist.
We have a right to the TLM guarenteed by Quo Primumum of St. Pius V and affirmed by our Pope Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI.
"Nonetheless, the Roman Missal promulgated by St. Pius V and reissued by Bl. John
XXIII is to be considered as an extraordinary expression of that same 'Lex
orandi,' and must be given due honour for its venerable and ancient usage."
If the allegations are true then it's troubling that "due honor" was not given for this "venerable and ancient usage." I know of many dioceses today where this is still the case, open hostility for the extraordinary form. It's slowly changing however. For instance, Florida by in large used to be very hostile to the TLM but now you have the FSSP saying Mass in three cities, Archbishop Wenski who said a Pontificial Solemn High Mass of Feb 2, 2012 and the seminarians in Florida assisting at that Mass and others throughout Miami.
Any Pope can overrule a disciplinary rule laid down by any previous Pope. The format of the Mass, other than its essentials (Offertory, Consecration and Communion and in the case of The Consecration the words to be used) are nothing more than disciplinary and can be changed at any time.
Let us be very clear. Benedict XVI DID NOT order that any priest is free to PUBLICLY celebrate the TLM. How the Liturgy is PUBLICLY Celebrated in any diocese is solely left to the discretion of the local Bishop. He encouraged, but did not require, Bishops to make greater usage of TLM.
As things stand today, I personally would prefer TLM to the NO even though I believe that some of the changes were a definite improvement, the expanded readings for example.
I personally believe the solution to this mess created by Paul VI in both the Mass and the Calendar would be best solved by a blending of the two forms that retains the best of both and eliminates the worst. To cut down on the allowed variations and options which is an open door to abuse, still often found today.
It is absolutely ridiculous to allow so many of these variations and options so that a person in the pew trying to follow the mass in a missal is reduced to frantically turning pages trying to find which choice the local Bishop ordered or priest has made.
One example of how silly it can get is the Credo. The Roman missal allows the Aprotle's Creed to be used instead of the Nicene Creed especially for a Children's mass. But wait, it says it is also appropriate to do so during Lent. ??? Its use in a Mass for children makes sense. But in Lent for every one? What more appropriate time to use the more precise Nicene Creed then during Lent?
I have said it several times in these forums. The "staging" of the NO Mass appears to me to have been designed by the Choreographers of Italian Comic Operas.
As important as the Bible is, how much more ridiculous can we be to parade the Book of readings at every Mass with pomp and circumstance, when in so many of our Churches the tabernacle has been relegated to a virtually hidden Adoration Chapel?