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Mar 18th 2013 new

(Quote) Rosemarie-744159 said: "This is a representation of the Summorum Pontificum Masses in Argentina, as o...
(Quote) Rosemarie-744159 said:


"This is a representation of the Summorum Pontificum Masses in Argentina, as of the end of 2012. The masses are in general celebrated each week. It's true that there is not much information for some Masses on the internet, but it doesn't mean they don't exist!".......


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The claims being made are that at least some of the Extraordinary Form Masses being offered in Agentina are hybrid Masses that contain elements from both the 1962 and post-1970 missals, which is explicitly forbidden under Summorum Pontificum. Do you have any information regarding the validity of these claims?

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Mar 18th 2013 new

(Quote) Jerry-74383 said: The claims being made are that at least some of the Extraordinary Form Masses being offer...
(Quote) Jerry-74383 said:

The claims being made are that at least some of the Extraordinary Form Masses being offered in Agentina are hybrid Masses that contain elements from both the 1962 and post-1970 missals, which is explicitly forbidden under Summorum Pontificum. Do you have any information regarding the validity of these claims?

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For your reference...the-hermeneutic-of-continuity.blogspot.com



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Mar 21st 2013 new

The National Catholic Reporter approvingly quoted an unnamed Vatican diplomat as saying that “the Traditional Latin Mass brigade is finished.” spectator.org

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Mar 21st 2013 new
" in 2007, when Summorum Pontificum was issued, the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires complied with... Ecclesia Dei; however, it was a once-a-month hybrid mass, with a chaplain handpicked by the then-Archbishop, a chaplain who, among other things, imposed the readings of the 1970 lectionary (the ABC book) and other alterations - a mass that was naturally rejected by the faithful, and finally discontinued. Other isolated priests who tried to implement Summorum on their own were told to stop. And the current situation, unheard-of in most of the largest dioceses of South America, is of a diocese with not a single Traditional Latin Mass celebrated by a diocesan priest. The closest diocesan TLM in the city of Buenos Aires is available if one crosses the line out of the city proper into a neighboring diocese." rorate-caeli.blogspot.com
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Mar 21st 2013 new

(Quote) Bernard-2709 said: " in 2007, when Summorum Pontificum was issued, the Archdiocese o...
(Quote) Bernard-2709 said: " in 2007, when Summorum Pontificum was issued, the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires complied with... Ecclesia Dei; however, it was a once-a-month hybrid mass, with a chaplain handpicked by the then-Archbishop, a chaplain who, among other things, imposed the readings of the 1970 lectionary (the ABC book) and other alterations - a mass that was naturally rejected by the faithful, and finally discontinued. Other isolated priests who tried to implement Summorum on their own were told to stop. And the current situation, unheard-of in most of the largest dioceses of South America, is of a diocese with not a single Traditional Latin Mass celebrated by a diocesan priest. The closest diocesan TLM in the city of Buenos Aires is available if one crosses the line out of the city proper into a neighboring diocese." rorate-caeli.blogspot.com
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What part of Summorum don't you understand?

Summorum gives no blanket authority for any priest to publicly celebrate TLM. It allows any priest to PRIVATELY celebrate it. It leaves it to the authority of a local Bishop how the liturgy is PUBLICLY celebrated in their diocese.

Consequently a Bishop may prohibit the public celebration of TLM in his diocese if he wishes. He is encouraged, but not required, to expand the public celebration of TLM.

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Mar 21st 2013 new

(Quote) Paul-866591 said: (Quote) Bernard-2709 said: " in 2007, when Summo...
(Quote) Paul-866591 said:

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Bernard-2709 said: " in 2007, when Summorum Pontificum was issued, the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires complied with... Ecclesia Dei; however, it was a once-a-month hybrid mass, with a chaplain handpicked by the then-Archbishop, a chaplain who, among other things, imposed the readings of the 1970 lectionary (the ABC book) and other alterations - a mass that was naturally rejected by the faithful, and finally discontinued. Other isolated priests who tried to implement Summorum on their own were told to stop. And the current situation, unheard-of in most of the largest dioceses of South America, is of a diocese with not a single Traditional Latin Mass celebrated by a diocesan priest. The closest diocesan TLM in the city of Buenos Aires is available if one crosses the line out of the city proper into a neighboring diocese." rorate-caeli.blogspot.com

What part of Summorum don't you understand?

Summorum gives no blanket authority for any priest to publicly celebrate TLM. It allows any priest to PRIVATELY celebrate it. It leaves it to the authority of a local Bishop how the liturgy is PUBLICLY celebrated in their diocese.

Consequently a Bishop may prohibit the public celebration of TLM in his diocese if he wishes. He is encouraged, but not required, to expand the public celebration of TLM.

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The Bishop (now Pope) did give his permission! So I don't know what you are talking about? It was not according to ruberics however is the point of the quote.

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Mar 21st 2013 new

(Quote) Rosemarie-744159 said: (Quote) Jerry-74383 said: The claims being made are that at least some...
(Quote) Rosemarie-744159 said:

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Jerry-74383 said:

The claims being made are that at least some of the Extraordinary Form Masses being offered in Agentina are hybrid Masses that contain elements from both the 1962 and post-1970 missals, which is explicitly forbidden under Summorum Pontificum. Do you have any information regarding the validity of these claims?



For your reference...the-hermeneutic-of-continuity.blogspot.com

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Thank you, but this article does not address the question of whether the EF Masses are strictly according to the 1962 missal or are hybrids. Several of the comments put forth the hybrid claim, but they all reference the Rorate blog, which, quite frankly, I don't trust.

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Mar 21st 2013 new

(Quote) Jerry-74383 said: Thank you, but this article does not address the question of whether the EF Masses are st...
(Quote) Jerry-74383 said:

Thank you, but this article does not address the question of whether the EF Masses are strictly according to the 1962 missal or are hybrids. Several of the comments put forth the hybrid claim, but they all reference the Rorate blog, which, quite frankly, I don't trust.

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There is a very definite opposition to Pope Francis in Argentina. Originating in ultra liberals (politically) who are anti-cleric and Anti catholic.

There are some here who seem drawn to anything critical of the Church.

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Mar 21st 2013 new

(Quote) Jerry-74383 said: Thank you, but this article does not address the question of whether the EF Masses are st...
(Quote) Jerry-74383 said:

Thank you, but this article does not address the question of whether the EF Masses are strictly according to the 1962 missal or are hybrids. Several of the comments put forth the hybrid claim, but they all reference the Rorate blog, which, quite frankly, I don't trust.

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The story was posted rorate-caeli.blogspot.com and translated by Roraete Caeli,but was originally from Página Católica in Argentina in 2010 pagina-catolica.blogspot.com

"The Mass was celebrated only on the Fourth Sunday of each month in the crypt of the church of San Miguel Arcángel. And more, as reported in 2010 by Página Católica, a most trusted blog on Argentine Catholic affairs that has been in our blogroll since its beginning"

"The poor blogger, so he would not be accused of falsifying anything, even recorded the new (1970) lectionary lessons read out in the once-a-month mass... [A full translation of the post should be posted by us soon.]"

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Mar 21st 2013 new

(Quote) Paul-866591 said: (Quote) Jerry-74383 said: Thank you, but this article does not add...
(Quote) Paul-866591 said:

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Jerry-74383 said:

Thank you, but this article does not address the question of whether the EF Masses are strictly according to the 1962 missal or are hybrids. Several of the comments put forth the hybrid claim, but they all reference the Rorate blog, which, quite frankly, I don't trust.


There is a very definite opposition to Pope Francis in Argentina. Originating in ultra liberals (politically) who are anti-cleric and Anti catholic.

There are some here who seem drawn to anything critical of the Church.

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Anything critical;no.

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