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Apr 4th 2013 new

www.churchmilitant.tv


YOu might want to watch this!

Apr 4th 2013 new

What proof do you have that Canada has a socialist government? FYI, we have a majority Conservative government right now. The difference is our Conservative Party isn't crazy.

Apr 4th 2013 new

And moreover, conserveratism's time is up in America now too. A new generation of voters are now coming of age who support workers' unions and don't feel that everyone else should have less so the rich can have more.

Okay, as for rich people, I have no problem with anyone earing large amounts of wealth because they invented a product that helps people and people want to buy it. People like Henry Ford, Bill Gates and Steve Jobbs got rich based on their own merits. Nothing wrong if you're rich for that reason.

Banksters, however, get their money by predatory lending and stealing family homes.

Remember that Henry Ford said it was better for him if ordinary people were better off because then he could sell more of his cars.

Apr 4th 2013 new

While my fellow Canadian’s opinions are his own, I do have to say that the anti-Canadian nonsense that gets repeated on these forums ad nauseum is a bit stale, especially when it comes from people who have never lived or perhaps even travelled to Canada. Virtually every single social problem that exists in Canada also exists in the United States.

Canada is not a totalitarian state. It is not a socialist country. The Canadian constitution guarantees freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Canada is not a pagan anti-Catholic wasteland either where Catholics cower under threat of persecution. There are provinces in Canada where Catholic schools are taxpayer funded. I actually attended them and I have friends with children enrolled in those schools.

May God bless the United States of America, but it is not the only democracy on the planet. The USA has many political and military allies that are also democracies. If you need to look for enemies, go pick on North Korea. Canada is not the problem.

Apr 4th 2013 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: I heard on EWTN that during times of persecution of our faith that the key to changing it was th...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

I heard on EWTN that during times of persecution of our faith that the key to changing it was through the culture not politics....makes a lot of sense. He gave the example of shakespeare who did not run for office or start a political party during the Elizabethan age when Catholics were being killed but instead, he wrote plays. If you think about it, this makes a lot of sense. Who owns the culture now except the unreligious liberals? And their values have been spreading everywhere since they started "owning" it.


YOur thoughts?

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Cheryl I think that you are so right about changing the society through culture. Lucifer was in charge of the music in heaven before he got thrown out and you can see his influence in the music and the celebrity culture surrounding music today. Everything from the blatant sexuality and endorsement of promiscuity to the blatant satanic pulse that some of the rock groups promote. Our children are changing before our eyes by the music they listen to.

Music influences on a deep level and touches us on both a concious and subconcious level. Our society is being formed by unscrupulous and evil music industry giants with anin your face anti-God and anti-morals agenda and anyone who is not able to see that is blind.

Music once used to elevate the mind is now being used to dumb it down and debase the dignity of us as humans. When you think of it on a spiritual level it all makes sense. Satan's issue with God was that he elevated the dignity of man to higher than that of the angels so it makes sense that he uses his gift to cause man to reject the plan of God and to lower his dignity.That is the end goal; for man to never realize his worth.

Apr 5th 2013 new

(Quote) John-221057 said: And moreover, conserveratism's time is up in America now too. A new generation of voters are n...
(Quote) John-221057 said:

And moreover, conserveratism's time is up in America now too. A new generation of voters are now coming of age who support workers' unions and don't feel that everyone else should have less so the rich can have more.

Okay, as for rich people, I have no problem with anyone earing large amounts of wealth because they invented a product that helps people and people want to buy it. People like Henry Ford, Bill Gates and Steve Jobbs got rich based on their own merits. Nothing wrong if you're rich for that reason.

Banksters, however, get their money by predatory lending and stealing family homes.

Remember that Henry Ford said it was better for him if ordinary people were better off because then he could sell more of his cars.

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First of all, union membership and support is plummeting in the U.S., and I don't see any reason to believe that is going to change any time soon.

Second, while there are any number of problems with the banking industry at the moment, it is over-stating the case that they are stealing family homes. Even if somebody bought a reasonable house and subsequently fell on hard times through no fault of their own, that doesn't make a foreclosure the same thing as theft. And then there is the reality that you can complain about the greedy bankers all you want, but if foolish people didn't try to live beyond their means, they wouldn't have been getting into mortgages they couldn't deal with in the first place, and that accounts for no small part of the forclosure problem.

Apr 5th 2013 new

(Quote) Angela-374523 said: While my fellow Canadian’s opinions are his own, I do have to say that the anti-Canadian n...
(Quote) Angela-374523 said:

While my fellow Canadian’s opinions are his own, I do have to say that the anti-Canadian nonsense that gets repeated on these forums ad nauseum is a bit stale, especially when it comes from people who have never lived or perhaps even travelled to Canada. Virtually every single social problem that exists in Canada also exists in the United States.

Canada is not a totalitarian state. It is not a socialist country. The Canadian constitution guarantees freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Canada is not a pagan anti-Catholic wasteland either where Catholics cower under threat of persecution. There are provinces in Canada where Catholic schools are taxpayer funded. I actually attended them and I have friends with children enrolled in those schools.

May God bless the United States of America, but it is not the only democracy on the planet. The USA has many political and military allies that are also democracies. If you need to look for enemies, go pick on North Korea. Canada is not the problem.

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wide eyed But...but...what about the South Park song about "Blame Canada!" Surely you're not suggesting South Park got it wrong?!

Apr 5th 2013 new

(Quote) John-336509 said: First of all, union membership and support is plummeting in the U.S., and I don't see...
(Quote) John-336509 said:

First of all, union membership and support is plummeting in the U.S., and I don't see any reason to believe that is going to change any time soon.

Second, while there are any number of problems with the banking industry at the moment, it is over-stating the case that they are stealing family homes. Even if somebody bought a reasonable house and subsequently fell on hard times through no fault of their own, that doesn't make a foreclosure the same thing as theft. And then there is the reality that you can complain about the greedy bankers all you want, but if foolish people didn't try to live beyond their means, they wouldn't have been getting into mortgages they couldn't deal with in the first place, and that accounts for no small part of the forclosure problem.

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Right, blame the victims who were conned by banksters for their own problems. It's their own fault that the government implemented irresponsible policies that caused the economy to plummet and bailed out the banks but not hard working families who lost their homes.

Apr 5th 2013 new
(Quote) Angela-374523 said: I do have to say that the anti-Canadian nonsense that gets repeated on these forums ad nauseum is a b...
(Quote) Angela-374523 said:

I do have to say that the anti-Canadian nonsense that gets repeated on these forums ad nauseum is a bit stale, especially when it comes from people who have never lived or perhaps even travelled to Canada.

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That's not what happened. Cheryl did not randomly bring up Canada. Actually, you described why Cheryl responded, with the mention of Canada in the first place. John is a Canadian who is spouting off (again) about the United States of America...where he personally does not live nor hold citizenship. It didn't happen the other way around.

Canada is our neighbor, ally, and friend. However, when non-citizens make erroneous statements or criticize the USA for not embracing liberal or socialistic ideologies, we will respond in kind.
Apr 5th 2013 new
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: I heard on EWTN that during times of persecution of our faith that the key to changing it was through the cult...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

I heard on EWTN that during times of persecution of our faith that the key to changing it was through the culture not politics....makes a lot of sense. He gave the example of shakespeare who did not run for office or start a political party during the Elizabethan age when Catholics were being killed but instead, he wrote plays. If you think about it, this makes a lot of sense. Who owns the culture now except the unreligious liberals? And their values have been spreading everywhere since they started "owning" it.


YOur thoughts?

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Very much agree.

Infiltrating culture was the methodology employed by liberals-communists-socialists to destroy America as we know it.

Remember the documentary, AGENDA: Grinding America Down?

www.mrctv.org

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