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on gun control

Apr 14th 2013 new

A friend just posted on facebook:


Right wing logic--
Criminals don't obey traffic lights so we should just abolish them.
How dare the government tell when to stop and go!
Fight for your liberties!
Say no to regulations on traffic.


So I answered:

Gun control is, to use this analogy, saying that since so many bad guys run through traffic lights and don't obey them, the way to fix the problem is to put traffic lights on every corner and turn them all red in every direction -- then we can be sitting ducks when the bad guys drive like crazy every which way as usual.
Anyone want to help me out with a better response?

Apr 14th 2013 new

The number one issue should be mental health that's the common dominator .

Apr 14th 2013 new

(Quote) Rachel-731570 said: A friend just posted on facebook: Right wing logic--Criminals don't obey traf...
(Quote) Rachel-731570 said:

A friend just posted on facebook:


Right wing logic--
Criminals don't obey traffic lights so we should just abolish them.
How dare the government tell when to stop and go!
Fight for your liberties!
Say no to regulations on traffic.


So I answered:

Gun control is, to use this analogy, saying that since so many bad guys run through traffic lights and don't obey them, the way to fix the problem is to put traffic lights on every corner and turn them all red in every direction -- then we can be sitting ducks when the bad guys drive like crazy every which way as usual.
Anyone want to help me out with a better response?

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Rachel, I think your response was great. Traffic lights prevent auto accidents, but we still have our cars for necessary travel; Laws prevent us from shooting each other in anger but we still have our guns for hunting and protection. Unfortunately the gun debate is one of those issues where people just have to agree to disagree. The anti-gun folks know full well that criminals will always have access to guns no matter how draconian the laws become, because they steal them. There have been interviews with imprisoned violent criminals who have said as much- they're not worried in the least. Only the hard working taxpayer obeys the law. There are responsible people on the left who have legitimate concerns, like safety- small children are curious and must be protected. We on the other hand know that in the event of a home invasion, when seconds count the police are minutes away.

Apr 14th 2013 new

(Quote) Rachel-731570 said: A friend just posted on facebook: Right wing logic--Criminals don't obey traf...
(Quote) Rachel-731570 said:

A friend just posted on facebook:


Right wing logic--
Criminals don't obey traffic lights so we should just abolish them.
How dare the government tell when to stop and go!
Fight for your liberties!
Say no to regulations on traffic.


So I answered:

Gun control is, to use this analogy, saying that since so many bad guys run through traffic lights and don't obey them, the way to fix the problem is to put traffic lights on every corner and turn them all red in every direction -- then we can be sitting ducks when the bad guys drive like crazy every which way as usual.
Anyone want to help me out with a better response?

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Tell them their example is stupid. wink

or

Liberal logic: Criminals don't obey the traffic laws we have already so let's make some additional laws they won't obey! Other than making themselves feel better for "doing something", what have they accomplished? They've already established that criminals don't respect the current laws. What makes them think new laws will be better received, since, by definition, criminals aren't interested in what the law states in the first place?

Apr 14th 2013 new

sigh

She says my logic is flawed and strange.


I tried. I failed to change her mind in any way on homosexual marriage, abortion, etc. Why am I disappointed or surprised?

Apr 14th 2013 new

Liberals are misguided by Socialist/Communist they never read the Constitution they go at it in increments there so purpose to destroy it / rewrite it . That of course includes the second amendment . "Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom, and then lost it, have never known it again."

Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States. First Inaugural Message as Governor of California, January 5, 1967.

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Apr 14th 2013 new

very simple rachel. Her logic is that of anarchy, you do not support anarchy. so simply put, there are laws against killing people, which we fully support. This is the same as a law against running red lights, both are misappropriations of a good. What she supports is taking away cars, so there will be no more red light runners, but everyone can have bicycles b/c those are not deadly as much.

Secondly, guns are for protection and guaranteed by the US constitution. cars are not guaranteed by the constitution. have fun, she sounds like a drone who will just worship at the alter of obama so best of luck.

Apr 14th 2013 new

(Quote) Rachel-731570 said: A friend just posted on facebook: Right wing logic--Criminals don't obey traf...
(Quote) Rachel-731570 said:

A friend just posted on facebook:


Right wing logic--
Criminals don't obey traffic lights so we should just abolish them.
How dare the government tell when to stop and go!
Fight for your liberties!
Say no to regulations on traffic.


So I answered:

Gun control is, to use this analogy, saying that since so many bad guys run through traffic lights and don't obey them, the way to fix the problem is to put traffic lights on every corner and turn them all red in every direction -- then we can be sitting ducks when the bad guys drive like crazy every which way as usual.
Anyone want to help me out with a better response?

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Hi Rachel , in the 60s agents of the Progressive party turned loose dogs on other folks attempting to exercise their Constitutional rights. Which other rights is she willing to surrender ? Voting rights? Freedom of speech and religion ? Does she want fully armed troops living in her house ? Does she support stop-and-frisk warrantless searches and raids ? Does she wish to eliminate jury trials ? Does she support torture ? Back then, the slogan was "....the whole world is watching...." Ask her at what point does she have no rights and the government owns her ? The first and second Amendments are critical, nothing will be stopped unless people know about it, and the final stopper for totalitatian attempts is armed people, exactly what was advocated by Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn. Still confuses me how so many who hate monolithic economic structures will bow to monolithic government....

Apr 14th 2013 new

Pope John Paul 2 knew the evils of the Communist/Socialist and all the misguided Liberals who followed them . He knew them all to well as EVIL .

Apr 14th 2013 new

(Quote) Rachel-731570 said: sighShe says my logic is flawed and strange. I tried. I failed to change her ...
(Quote) Rachel-731570 said:

sigh

She says my logic is flawed and strange.


I tried. I failed to change her mind in any way on homosexual marriage, abortion, etc. Why am I disappointed or surprised?

--hide--

Typical liberal response when they can not come up with something cogent to say.

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