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Apr 11th 2013 new
(Quote) Lynea-297530 said: That line that conservatives want to protect greedy wall street investors (bankers) is a...
(Quote) Lynea-297530 said:



That line that conservatives want to protect greedy wall street investors (bankers) is a lie lie lie. They have no proof that this is true about the average conservative, because that isn't true. Libs get that from the fed reserve that is socialist and says this type of stuff knowing that they won't look into it. They gaslight, that's all it is.

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clap That's the left's strategy...telling lies over and over until people start to believe them.
Apr 11th 2013 new
(Quote) Mary-486033 said: (Quote) Lynea-297530 said: That line that conservatives want to protect gre...
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That line that conservatives want to protect greedy wall street investors (bankers) is a lie lie lie. They have no proof that this is true about the average conservative, because that isn't true. Libs get that from the fed reserve that is socialist and says this type of stuff knowing that they won't look into it. They gaslight, that's all it is.


That's the left's strategy...telling lies over and over until people start to believe them.
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Another strategy is to divert and distract. Take for instance the purpose/topic of this thread...and the immediate introduction of diversionary posts about Paul Ryan, bankers, Wall Street, socialized medicine, and global warming... rolling eyes
Apr 11th 2013 new

(Quote) John-221057 said: (Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: I'm sorry, but govt. run medical is sociali...
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I'm sorry, but govt. run medical is socialized medicine where people now no longer feel the need to work...why bother as they get free medical and free everything else and free abortions for that matter...what I"m talking about is safety nets (not socialized medicine) that are already here in our country sponsored by both our parties. This was there for my sister in law and in our country you are never denied medical and when it is persistent can claim disablity and they DID go bankrupt and survived...too bad....better to go bankrupt than to kill babies.

Are you telling me that in Canada, your govt. provides medical without abortion and birth control coverage??? If that is so great but if it isn't true than you are first caring about yourself....period....your fear results in the deaths of others. If you voted for this and supported it, then you indeed do vote for it and support it....period. I would rather have NO medical (been there) than support this.

Again, this thread was never about this.


Wow, how uninformed you really are about Canada. All of our politicians in Canada support abortion, even the Conservative Party. So no matter how I vote I'm voting for someone who supports it. I don't like it, but that's the reality.

And as for your holier-than-thou attitude, I think you need a reminder of our saviour's word:

"How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." (Matthew 7:3-5)

That's the problem with conservatives, too. Talking like you're better than everyone else. They're dirty, you're oh so clean and perfect.

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Amazing how you compliment and condemn consevatives in the same breath....I mean I'm assuming that you are complementing that fact that in our country conservatives still have prolife values in their platform while liberals do no! Really, you quote a BIBLE VERSE to me...really? That is your line of argument? I hate to tell you this but I LIVED what you are speaking about...not having insurance and I CHOSE to NOT vote for socialized medicine that would include abortions and birth controls...so I have every right to judge the actions of those who chose their own safety over the welfare of others. If what you say is true that neither one of your parties is prolife than you have NO conservative party in Canada and you have BIG problems as seen by your prodeath culture and your pro hate speech bills....really, what business do you have in our country's issues....mind your own and get out there and get a party started that is prolife and get rid of that socialist govt.

Apr 11th 2013 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: I heard on EWTN that during times of persecution of our faith that the key to changing it was th...
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I heard on EWTN that during times of persecution of our faith that the key to changing it was through the culture not politics....makes a lot of sense. He gave the example of shakespeare who did not run for office or start a political party during the Elizabethan age when Catholics were being killed but instead, he wrote plays. If you think about it, this makes a lot of sense. Who owns the culture now except the unreligious liberals? And their values have been spreading everywhere since they started "owning" it.


YOur thoughts?

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Anyway, back to topic....I just heard on EWTN that Annette Funicello from the Franki Avalon movies when I was a kid just died....sad. She was a Catholic who kept her values in the media. She fought MS and said she offerred her suffering up to Jesus. Praying

Apr 16th 2013 new

(Quote) John-221057 said: Another question. Suppose you got cancer or had a heart attack, and the treatment requires that yo...
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Another question. Suppose you got cancer or had a heart attack, and the treatment requires that you come up with $400,000 dollars. Would you be able to afford that? Unless you're rich, I would assume not.

I love our universal health care in Canada. My grandfather died of cancer and the amount of care he received over the years would have cost well over $1 million dollars. There's no way my family could have come up with that kind of money.

I like the security of knowing that if I ever need health care I'll get it and it won't bankrupt me.

When my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer she got timely surgery and radiation treatment afterwards, and now she's been fine for 13 years. Under your system that would have bankrupted my family.

I think you really have no idea what socialism is.

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John, Why do so many Canadians who can afford it come to the USa for healthcare? I happen to live near the Canadian border. The answer is socialized medicine in Canada is inferior to the system we had and are now giving up to Obamacare. My Canadian friends tell me they have to wait forever to get treated and a lot of people die waiting.

Apr 16th 2013 new

I'd say the main problem is the cost of healthcare. Whether single-payer or private, putting out thousands upon thousands of $$$ for treatment is ridiculous. I haven't done much research into healthcare but I remember having read that healthcare costs in the US have skyrocketed since the introduction of HMOs in the 1980s. If I had to guess, regulations were abolished and Wall Street bandits came in to turn healthcare into giant, unregulated oligopolies. Now, are those oligopolists today regulating their competition out of business?


Somebody has to pay for these enormous healthcare costs. What difference does it make whether healthcare goes "socialist"? In the end it's all about costs. We need to rebuild our economy and get healthcare costs under control so that people can afford to get the medicine and treatment they need without going broke.

Apr 16th 2013 new

(Quote) Lynea-297530 said: thanks, Cheryl. That line that conservatives want to protect greedy wall street i...
(Quote) Lynea-297530 said:

thanks, Cheryl.

That line that conservatives want to protect greedy wall street investors (bankers) is a lie lie lie. They have no proof that this is true about the average conservative, because that isn't true. Libs get that from the fed reserve that is socialist and says this type of stuff knowing that they won't look into it. They gaslight, that's all it is. When you hold their feet to the fire to explain this nonsense, they make the excuse that it is the "big banks" that are evil and greedy. So the Federal Government and Fed Reserve are looking to TANK the banks --- and not just the large ones, but the small ones, too. Don't believe me? Then you simply have your head in the sand. MOST small banks have gone under in the last 5 years. Soon there will be no small banks. Soon there will be only a very, very few large banks, and they will be run from Asia. I know a bit about the Federal Reserve from attending the meetings at the KC one with the Banker's Institute. I can tell you, they (the Fed Reserve) is downright bold about wanting to end the big banks. But guess what? This will hurt the average citizen they (LIE) and claim to want to protect. You don't have to think too long to imagine the consequences of not being able to have control of your own money. However, you have to want to THINK about this, and not just go off on a few sound bites you've been fed and the emotions they provoke in one who is not really aware of what is happening.

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The Fed's an extension of the empire of the City of London. The Morgans, Rockefellers, Harrimans and others worked for London and the great banking houses of the City. The US has struggled forever to stay independent of London, something Canada tried to do but never succeeded in accomplishing. The ruling class of the US is the liberal establishment, but the term "liberal" in this context is different from what most Americans think "liberal" means. If you've read the London Economist, you know what liberal means.

Apr 17th 2013 new

(Quote) Naomi-698107 said: I just had a good ole discussion on FB about redefining marriage to accomodate same sex couples.<...
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I just had a good ole discussion on FB about redefining marriage to accomodate same sex couples.

And when I say "good ole discussion" I mean a bunch of pro-RDMTASSC told me I was hateful and biggotted because I posted a "marriage = man + woman" profile pic. Hehe. The disucssion then revolved around my position as a nurse and how I was "unprofessional" for being such a mean, love hating bigot.

I was also told that Jesus was nice. And he likes homos. And I'm a mean ole bigot, who's hateful you know, and has no compassion, because I tell people that taking it up the backside is bad. And Jesus would be totally all for two men playing house.

During this discussion I noticed an either two things.

1. The person wasn't reading my posts - TLDR? or

2. Didn't understand.

At this junction I was sure to include a I don't really blame you, its not your fault, everyone likes love and catch phrases and Bob looks o' so pretiful in a white dress, ooooh, and that veil, to die for!

I would stand by the number that probably 9 out of 10 of my FB buddies were pro-RDMTASSC.

I see their posts. I see their absolute crap tastic job of arguing. I see their fall back comments. I hear the term bigot so many times I think maybe I should get it tattooed on my forehead to warn everyone I'm coming.

Yip, pretty obvious what view society holds.

Silly society!

Of course, I'm just a mean ole hateful bigot.

I am totally unprofessional though. My boss just laughs at my antics. And then says "I have to be seen to be telling you off, so I'm just going to shut my office door and read this magazine, you want this cross word?"

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Naomi, as you have noted, those on the far left who are unable to articulate their extreme views resort to name-calling. Can't recall where I read it, but someone once said that the first to resort to name-calling in a debate is the loser. I've also been called similar names- it's just water off a duck's back.

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