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May 9th 2013 new
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said: He should be cremated and put in a jar and given to his family.
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He should be cremated and put in a jar and given to his family.

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I agree. He should not be buried on American soil. Give him back to his mother cremated or make her responsible for costs incurred to get his body over to Russia.
May 9th 2013 new

(Quote) Jane-933948 said: You guys are more Holy than I, because I just want to say cremation! But then I know that is not C...
(Quote) Jane-933948 said:

You guys are more Holy than I, because I just want to say cremation! But then I know that is not Christian. My vote gets burial at sea. Because if the body is buried, you can bet your bottom dollar that it will be stolen and desecrated. It should not come from America's expense, we have paid enough already.

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There is nothing unChristian about cremation.

May 9th 2013 new

(Quote) Marianne-100218 said: He should be cremated and put in a jar and given to his family. Enough said.Bo...
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said:



He should be cremated and put in a jar and given to his family. Enough said.

Boy, America gets itself in so many problems.

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His religion forbids cremation, and we should respect the family's beliefs. Despite the evil act that did so much harm to so many people, we need to ask ourselves if we're seeking some type of vengeance against this perpetrator. No longer can he be a danger to anyone -- the direction of his soul is up to the Almighty.

Yes, we're angry and upset about what he has done (and rightly so). But -- his life is over. Lay him to rest so the spiritual and emotional healing can be advanced.

May 9th 2013 new

(Quote) Paul-302787 said: Well, the funeral parlor holding Tsarnrev's body is having a hard time finding anyone to take...
(Quote) Paul-302787 said:

Well, the funeral parlor holding Tsarnrev's body is having a hard time finding anyone to take his body, whether or not he gets a grave marker or not.
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Perhaps the body could be dismembered and a piece sent to each of the cities where one of his victims lived. Then the pieces could be burnt there in a public ceremony to dispell the memory of his horrible life forever from the planet. The skull could be put on display at the Smithsonian.The body parts could be used as an object lesson that Americans do not respect or tolerate terorists.

May 9th 2013 new

(Quote) Mary-486033 said: I agree. He should not be buried on American soil. Give him back to his mother cremated or make her respo...
(Quote) Mary-486033 said: I agree. He should not be buried on American soil. Give him back to his mother cremated or make her responsible for costs incurred to get his body over to Russia.
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There are major expenses and red tape for expatriation of a dead body. And Russia (SURPRISE) isn't cooperating.

May 9th 2013 new

(Quote) Gerald-283546 said: Perhaps the body could be dismembered and a piece sent to each of the cities where one of hi...
(Quote) Gerald-283546 said:


Perhaps the body could be dismembered and a piece sent to each of the cities where one of his victims lived. Then the pieces could be burnt there in a public ceremony to dispell the memory of his horrible life forever from the planet. The skull could be put on display at the Smithsonian.The body parts could be used as an object lesson that Americans do not respect or tolerate terorists.

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Well according to the New Times Americans failed the Tsarnaevs..."The alleged involvement of two ethnic Chechen brothers in the deadly attack at the Boston Marathon last week should prompt Americans to reflect on whether we do an adequate job assimilating immigrants who arrive in the United States as children or teenagers." shocked So it must be our responsibility, also, to bury him.
Mark Steyn says it best.. www.ocregister.com

May 9th 2013 new

Buried in his best suit in his home town with the same civilian ceremonials as anyone else. After all, we wouldn't want to be accused of hypocrisy in saying that one perpetrator who damages people using one type of method should be treated differently from another perpetrator who uses a different kind of method.



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Do we know that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a bad man? Only if we know for certain that his soul is in Hell. That is the only criterion for knowing whether a person is evil, as the true character of a person is only revealed after judgement. If his soul is in Purgatory, he cannot be considered to be evil because God has deemed him worthy of salvation. And since we don't know where his soul is, we don't know whether he is evil or not. Making invidious assumptions about his character without knowing all the facts about him (and the most important facts about the quality of a person are those that are revealed in the next world) is probably a calumny because everything we say about him is ... well ... being said about him. We're not talking about an abstraction but about a still-living creation that is still loved by God.



The real entity that is 'Tamerlan Tsarnaev' is no longer with us. People are only dumping on his corpse. It's said that every day, as we move our bodies in our daily lives, we dislodge billions of dead cells from our surface areas (skin, hair, etc.). We are not the dead cells we leave behind on our furniture, floors and bed linen as we move on. 'Tamerlan Tsarnaev' is not the corpse he left behind as he moved on. Dumping on his corpse is like someone trashing your school locker because they don't like you. Immature.










May 9th 2013 new

(Quote) Roystan-340472 said: Buried in his best suit in his home town with the same civilian ceremonials as anyone else. Aft...
(Quote) Roystan-340472 said:

Buried in his best suit in his home town with the same civilian ceremonials as anyone else. After all, we wouldn't want to be accused of hypocrisy in saying that one perpetrator who damages people using one type of method should be treated differently from another perpetrator who uses a different kind of method.



www.jsonline.com




Do we know that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a bad man? Only if we know for certain that his soul is in Hell. That is the only criterion for knowing whether a person is evil, as the true character of a person is only revealed after judgement. If his soul is in Purgatory, he cannot be considered to be evil because God has deemed him worthy of salvation. And since we don't know where his soul is, we don't know whether he is evil or not. Making invidious assumptions about his character without knowing all the facts about him (and the most important facts about the quality of a person are those that are revealed in the next world) is probably a calumny because everything we say about him is ... well ... being said about him. We're not talking about an abstraction but about a still-living creation that is still loved by God.



The real entity that is 'Tamerlan Tsarnaev' is no longer with us. People are only dumping on his corpse. It's said that every day, as we move our bodies in our daily lives, we dislodge billions of dead cells from our surface areas (skin, hair, etc.). We are not the dead cells we leave behind on our furniture, floors and bed linen as we move on. 'Tamerlan Tsarnaev' is not the corpse he left behind as he moved on. Dumping on his corpse is like someone trashing your school locker because they don't like you. Immature.










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May 9th 2013 new

Moot point now, he's in the ground at an undisclosed location.

May 9th 2013 new

(Quote) Ray-566531 said: His religion forbids cremation, and we should respect the family's beliefs. Despite the evil ac...
(Quote) Ray-566531 said:

His religion forbids cremation, and we should respect the family's beliefs. Despite the evil act that did so much harm to so many people, we need to ask ourselves if we're seeking some type of vengeance against this perpetrator. No longer can he be a danger to anyone -- the direction of his soul is up to the Almighty.

Yes, we're angry and upset about what he has done (and rightly so). But -- his life is over. Lay him to rest so the spiritual and emotional healing can be advanced.

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well said

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