(quote) James-17080 said: Hi Patrick and Paul,
Good morning :-)
At least 3 people on Fox News, the source of information for all too many CM, really does not like what Francis is saying:
Those of us who live in the real world know that just because three knuckleheads of Fox say something, that does not make it true. But these guys are not entirely clueless. They know that the faith people have in the current economic system is shaky at best. For the Pope to come along and attack that system is a real threat. They have this binary way of thinking whereby "if you are not with us, you are against us". This is a textbook case of a false dichotomy.
If you're curious about the Pope's socialist leanings, perhaps you should contact Rush Limbaugh. But before you do, read this:
You write "among socialists there are elites". Bill Maher, on his show Real Time With Bill Maher, talked about this. Paraphrasing, he said "When I'm ill, I want to go to an elite doctor. For education, I want to go to an elite university. If I need surgery, I want an elite surgeon. But amongst conservatives, "elite" is b∙a∙d. So unless you're a dirt farmer from Kansas, you're with the terrorists".
Yes, I suppose there are elitists on the left who practice the maxim "do as I say and not as I do". Do you believe that practice is limited to socialists who are elitists? If you do, keep in mind Rush Limbaugh's drug addiction and problems with the law. The only reason the case was not prosecuted is that Limbaugh paid out $35,000. Now that is elite treatment.
What "wasteful programs" do you suggest cutting?
First off a program to cut Federal Payrolls by 10% a year for the next 3 years would make a wonderful start. Then require all future pay raises for civil servents to be strictly on a merit bases and not automatic pay raises if they did not screw up royally. and managed to just stay on the job for another year. In fact, just freezing all pay for Federal workers until the pay in the private sector for similar jobs catches up. And by pay rate I mean including all bennies. Cut out all cost of living increases which is just a way of solidifying inflation.
Then we can save a lot by walking away from the nonsense "alternative energy' subsidies.Knock out the "carbon credit" program.
Restore sanity in some other "energy" related programs like getting rid of the good ole light bulb and force people to use the far more dangerous to the environment fluorescent bulbs. Oh yes the silly electric cars that may save us from the horrors of all those smog inducing chemicals but cost more money for battery replacement as well as providing a future source of even more dangerous ground water pollution garbage.
A few billion can be saved if we stop all the nonsense spending on "man-made" global warming projects. The lessons that are there from the computer millennium problem are there to be learned. Billions in Federal and private money wasted on complete silliness.
Getting the Feds out of education and health care will save even more billions both in tax money and unnecessary private spending generated thereby. At the same time we could actually see real improvement in both education and health care.
Oh a mere few millions could be saved by requiring Presidents to pay for their own and family vacations. And when I saw pay their own I mean including all costs.
That's just a beginning.
BY the way, I am not saying elitists don't exist in any other political or economic system. I was merely trying to show that the basis that was being used to brand Francis a socialist just don't prove what was stated to be the case.
A person is not a socialist because they are concerned for the poor or because they eschew privileges for themselves. Nor is someone a socialist just because they say that the basic necessities of life should be available to all. Nor is one a socialist for saying a rich man should do more for the poor.