Faith Focused Dating. Create your Free Profile and meet your Match!

A place to learn, mingle, and share

Singles discussion related to wedding planning, engagement, and married life should be posted in this room.

Saint Valentine is patron saint of love, young people, and happy marriages.
Learn More: Saint Valentine

Okay, i don't know what your reaction to that caption above is, but for me, i was like "oh dear, is he smoking that stuff again" or worst still "Poor man, he was tricked into a marriage he never wanted to be part of" but what is his story?

"... i am ridiculous, emotional, over-sentimental sap. I guess thats why I told my wife I loved her on our second date. I had tried really hard up to that point to hold it back, honestly. I wanted to tell her on the first date, but I knew that would probably be weird. I still remember her reaction. She kind of gave me this half-shy, half-amused smile. Then she nodded and looked off into the sky. I wasnt heartbroken by the response. I think part of me recognized that she was much smarter and more modest than me. But as time has gone on, I also realized that she knew something that I didnt.

Like most Hasidic Jews (we both became religious later in life), our dating period lasted a very short time. After two months of dating, we were engaged. Three months after that, we were married. And that whole time I was swooning. This fire was burning in me, a fire that burned just like that second date: I was in love. But then we got married, and everything changed.

Marriage, quicker than I was ready for, did this thing: it started sucking away that emotion. I tried so hard to keep that fire going, to keep that emotion alight, but it got harder and harder. I mean, how you can feel that burning love when youre sitting at the table discussing how to use the last twenty dollars in your bank account? How can you feel it when you get into an argument? How can you feel it when you think it makes perfect sense to put your socks on the floor after youre done with them, and she has this crazy idea that they need to go in the laundry basket? There was no way I could keep that dating fire burning as practicality invaded our lives. And at first, it drove me nuts. That emotion meant love! That excitement was how I knew I cared for her! But suddenly, life was this grind. Even when I was with her. Especially when I was with her. And even worse, it seemed that the harder I tried to be sentimental and lovey-dovey, the less it was reciprocated.

But it wasn't that she wasn't giving me love, it just seemed to come at different times. Like, when I offered to do the dishes. Or make dinner after she had a hard day. Or, once we had a daughter, when I shared the responsibility of watching over her. I dont think I noticed this consciously for a while. It just kept happening. But I think it had an effect on me. Because as our marriage progressed, I found myself offering to help out around the house more and more. And after each time, there would be this look she would give me. This look of absolute love. One that was soft and so beautiful. It took me longer than I care to admit to understand what was happening. But eventually it became clear.

Through giving, through doing things for my wife, the emotion that I had been so desperately seeking naturally came about. It wasn't something I could force, just something that would come about as a result of my giving. In other words, it was in the practicality that I found the love I was looking for. And what was even more interesting was that once I realized this on a conscious level, and started trying to find more opportunities to give, the more we both, almost intuitively, became lovey-dovey. And now, as Im a bit older and a bit more experienced with this relationship, I've finally come to realize something. Something I havent wanted to admit for a long time, but is undeniable. I didnt love my wife on that second date. I didnt love her when we got engaged. I didnt even love her when we got married. Because love isnt an emotion. That fire I felt, it was simply that: emotional fire. From the excitement of dating a woman I felt like I could marry. But it wasnt love.

No, love isnt an emotion or even a noun. Its a verb. Better defined as giving. As putting someone elses needs above your own. Why wasnt I getting reciprocal lovey-doveyness when we were first married? Because it wasnt for her. It was for me. An emotion I had in my chest. And even when I let it out of my chest, it wasnt love. Being sappy isnt love.

Telling someone you love them doesnt mean that you do. And thats why my wife just gave me that half-smile. She knew, even if I didnt, what love really is. And now that Ive tried to change the way I look at love, the more I become shocked at the messages of love I had gotten when I was younger. From Disney movies to my favorite shows like The Office to practically every pop song released, love is constantly sold as an emotion we have before were married. An emotion that, once had, somehow magically stays within a marriage forever. I cant imagine a bigger lie. And Im saddened to think about how much those messages bounced around in my head for so long. And how much Im sure those messages are bouncing around in other peoples heads as well. I think that might be a big part of the reason the divorce rate is so high in this country. Imagine a whole nation of people constantly chasing the emotions they had when they were dating. A country of people trying to live a Disney movie. Thats a recipe for disastrous marriages; for a country with a 50% divorce rate; for adultery (the classic attempt to turn the fire back on); for people who do stay together to simply live functional, loveless marriages. Its sad to see just how common all the above is.

How many people are in pain simply because theyve been lied to. Those people deserve better. We all deserve better. Its time that we changed the conversation about love. Its time that we redefine it. Because until we do, adultery will continue to be common. Loveless marriages. Divorce. Living Disney movies in our minds, and tragedies in our lives"

After reading his story, i realized that no, he isn't smoking anything; in fact, his head is a lot clearer than mine. and if there is anybody tricked at all, that should be me since i felt pity for him when i saw the caption, whereas, i was the one who needed the pity. after all, i probably still see love in same light as he did, before he got married.
What about you?
Apr 24th 2014 new
He makes a very good point...love is a choice. The feelings are fleeting.

"I think that might be a big part of the reason the divorce rate is so high in this country. Imagine a whole nation of people constantly chasing the emotions they had when they were dating. A country of people trying to live a Disney movie. Thats a recipe for disastrous marriages; for a country with a 50% divorce rate; for adultery (the classic attempt to turn the fire back on); for people who do stay together to simply live functional, loveless marriages. Its sad to see just how common all the above is."

Well said. A country of people trying to live a Disney movie.

By the way...Happy Birthday!!!! Happy Birthday!
Apr 24th 2014 new
(quote) Susan-1048377 said: He makes a very good point...love is a choice. The feelings are fleeting.

"I think that might be a big part of the reason the divorce rate is so high in this country. Imagine a whole nation of people constantly chasing the emotions they had when they were dating. A country of people trying to live a Disney movie. Thats a recipe for disastrous marriages; for a country with a 50% divorce rate; for adultery (the classic attempt to turn the fire back on); for people who do stay together to simply live functional, loveless marriages. Its sad to see just how common all the above is."

Well said. A country of people trying to live a Disney movie.

By the way...Happy Birthday!!!!

Yeah, it is so true...

Thanks for the birthday wish... Actually hanging out with my mates.. They are spoiling me silly. :)

Apr 24th 2014 new
That's a very uplifting story. Thank you, Val, and welcome to the forums!

Hope
Apr 24th 2014 new
Thank-you for posting this Val.
At the Catholic Worker there was a quote from Dostoyevsky's "The Brothers Karamazov" that was hung on the wall. It read, "Love in action is a harsh and dreadful thing compared to love in dreams."
As a twenty-something year old I didn't understand it, but now I've come to interpret it as love in action is a sacrifice, therefore it hurts sometimes.

Apr 24th 2014 new
Love this post. Love is not a feeling. It is a story. Sometimes it is accompanied by highs, sometime it is accompanied by lows. Sometimes it has no emotion at all, and exists in a dry and barren desert. It is the story of Christ dying on the cross. And the more we understand this, the more we able to give and receive true love.
Apr 25th 2014 new
(quote) Judy-579799 said: Love this post. Love is not a feeling. It is a story. Sometimes it is accompanied by highs, sometime it is accompanied by lows. Sometimes it has no emotion at all, and exists in a dry and barren desert. It is the story of Christ dying on the cross. And the more we understand this, the more we able to give and receive true love.
Judy, very well put. I discovered the very thing the author discovered; the more I gave him the more I loved my former husband. Unfortunately he did not give, therefore he did not make the same discovery. One day he asked me, "Why do you love me so much?", and I answered, "Because I have given you so much". WHen Jesus said, "it is in giving that you will receive", he did not mean material things, he meant in giving of ourselves to others we will receive the ability to love others as he intended. Yes, sometimes love is sacrificial, as Christ's love is for us.
Apr 25th 2014 new
(quote) Val-1082033 said: Okay, i don't know what your reaction to that caption above is, but for me, i was like "oh dear, is he smoking that stuff again" or worst still "Poor man, he was tricked into a marriage he never wanted to be part of" but what is his story?

"... i am ridiculous, emotional, over-sentimental sap. I guess thats why I told my wife I loved her on our second date. I had tried really hard up to that point to hold it back, honestly. I wanted to tell her on the first date, but I knew that would probably be weird. I still remember her reaction. She kind of gave me this half-shy, half-amused smile. Then she nodded and looked off into the sky. I wasnt heartbroken by the response. I think part of me recognized that she was much smarter and more modest than me. But as time has gone on, I also realized that she knew something that I didnt.

Like most Hasidic Jews (we both became religious later in life), our dating period lasted a very short time. After two months of dating, we were engaged. Three months after that, we were married. And that whole time I was swooning. This fire was burning in me, a fire that burned just like that second date: I was in love. But then we got married, and everything changed.

Marriage, quicker than I was ready for, did this thing: it started sucking away that emotion. I tried so hard to keep that fire going, to keep that emotion alight, but it got harder and harder. I mean, how you can feel that burning love when youre sitting at the table discussing how to use the last twenty dollars in your bank account? How can you feel it when you get into an argument? How can you feel it when you think it makes perfect sense to put your socks on the floor after youre done with them, and she has this crazy idea that they need to go in the laundry basket? There was no way I could keep that dating fire burning as practicality invaded our lives. And at first, it drove me nuts. That emotion meant love! That excitement was how I knew I cared for her! But suddenly, life was this grind. Even when I was with her. Especially when I was with her. And even worse, it seemed that the harder I tried to be sentimental and lovey-dovey, the less it was reciprocated.

But it wasn't that she wasn't giving me love, it just seemed to come at different times. Like, when I offered to do the dishes. Or make dinner after she had a hard day. Or, once we had a daughter, when I shared the responsibility of watching over her. I dont think I noticed this consciously for a while. It just kept happening. But I think it had an effect on me. Because as our marriage progressed, I found myself offering to help out around the house more and more. And after each time, there would be this look she would give me. This look of absolute love. One that was soft and so beautiful. It took me longer than I care to admit to understand what was happening. But eventually it became clear.

Through giving, through doing things for my wife, the emotion that I had been so desperately seeking naturally came about. It wasn't something I could force, just something that would come about as a result of my giving. In other words, it was in the practicality that I found the love I was looking for. And what was even more interesting was that once I realized this on a conscious level, and started trying to find more opportunities to give, the more we both, almost intuitively, became lovey-dovey. And now, as Im a bit older and a bit more experienced with this relationship, I've finally come to realize something. Something I havent wanted to admit for a long time, but is undeniable. I didnt love my wife on that second date. I didnt love her when we got engaged. I didnt even love her when we got married. Because love isnt an emotion. That fire I felt, it was simply that: emotional fire. From the excitement of dating a woman I felt like I could marry. But it wasnt love.

No, love isnt an emotion or even a noun. Its a verb. Better defined as giving. As putting someone elses needs above your own. Why wasnt I getting reciprocal lovey-doveyness when we were first married? Because it wasnt for her. It was for me. An emotion I had in my chest. And even when I let it out of my chest, it wasnt love. Being sappy isnt love.

Telling someone you love them doesnt mean that you do. And thats why my wife just gave me that half-smile. She knew, even if I didnt, what love really is. And now that Ive tried to change the way I look at love, the more I become shocked at the messages of love I had gotten when I was younger. From Disney movies to my favorite shows like The Office to practically every pop song released, love is constantly sold as an emotion we have before were married. An emotion that, once had, somehow magically stays within a marriage forever. I cant imagine a bigger lie. And Im saddened to think about how much those messages bounced around in my head for so long. And how much Im sure those messages are bouncing around in other peoples heads as well. I think that might be a big part of the reason the divorce rate is so high in this country. Imagine a whole nation of people constantly chasing the emotions they had when they were dating. A country of people trying to live a Disney movie. Thats a recipe for disastrous marriages; for a country with a 50% divorce rate; for adultery (the classic attempt to turn the fire back on); for people who do stay together to simply live functional, loveless marriages. Its sad to see just how common all the above is.

How many people are in pain simply because theyve been lied to. Those people deserve better. We all deserve better. Its time that we changed the conversation about love. Its time that we redefine it. Because until we do, adultery will continue to be common. Loveless marriages. Divorce. Living Disney movies in our minds, and tragedies in our lives"

After reading his story, i realized that no, he isn't smoking anything; in fact, his head is a lot clearer than mine. and if there is anybody tricked at all, that should be me since i felt pity for him when i saw the caption, whereas, i was the one who needed the pity. after all, i probably still see love in same light as he did, before he got married.
What about you?
Val, thank you so much for sharing this article!! Blessings to you on your birthday.
Apr 25th 2014 new
Happy Birthday Val Happy Birthday! wave Wolf Whistle party
Apr 25th 2014 new
(quote) Hope-1049882 said: That's a very uplifting story. Thank you, Val, and welcome to the forums!

Hope
Yeah, it makes one see love in a whole new light. Thanks Hope
Posts 1 - 10 of 24