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everything is just fine

May 3rd 2014 new
If anyone can read this and still say everything is just fine..time to wake up
Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.
Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.......
Saul David Alinsky, a writer, was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of the modern community organizing movement. He is most noted for his book Rules for Radicals.
Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA
Education: University of Chicago
Spouse: Irene Alinsky
Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals
Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ?
All eight rules are currently in play
How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:
There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.
1) Healthcare Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)
6) Education Take control of what people read and listen to take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
8) Class Warfare Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?
Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
VOLTAIRE

May 3rd 2014 new
(quote) Clair-6292 said: If anyone can read this and still say everything is just fine..time to wake up Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today....... Saul David Alinsky, a writer, was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of the modern community organizing movement. He is most noted for his book Rules for Radicals.Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CAEducation: University of ChicagoSpouse: Irene AlinskyBooks: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ? All eight rules are currently in play How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky: There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important. 1) Healthcare Control healthcare and you control the people 2) Poverty Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live. 3) Debt Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty. 4) Gun Control Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state. 5) Welfare Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income) 6) Education Take control of what people read and listen to take control of what children learn in school. 7) Religion Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools. 8) Class Warfare Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor. Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ? Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S. "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."VOLTAIRE
Great post Clair -- I also believe TV is a tool used to dumb people down.
May 3rd 2014 new
Michael Voris did a terrific piece on Saul Alinsky and his influence in the CAtholic Campaign for Human Development. Everything you wrote is true, Clair.

www.churchmilitant.tv

Google "Cloward-Piven Act" for another angle on the planned takedown of America. Everything we are experiencing today, and wondering why the greatest country is spiraling down fast, can be understood once you grasp that this is happening by design.
May 3rd 2014 new
Michael Voris did a terrific piece on Saul Alinsky and his influence in the CAtholic Campaign for Human Development. Everything you wrote is true, Clair.

www.churchmilitant.tv

Google "Cloward-Piven Act" for another angle on the planned takedown of America. Everything we are experiencing today, and wondering why the greatest country is spiraling down fast, can be understood once you grasp that this is happening by design.
May 4th 2014 new
(quote) Clair-6292 said: If anyone can read this and still say everything is just fine..time to wake up Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today....... Saul David Alinsky, a writer, was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of the modern community organizing movement. He is most noted for his book Rules for Radicals.Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CAEducation: University of ChicagoSpouse: Irene AlinskyBooks: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ? All eight rules are currently in play How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky: There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important. 1) Healthcare Control healthcare and you control the people 2) Poverty Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live. 3) Debt Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty. 4) Gun Control Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state. 5) Welfare Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income) 6) Education Take control of what people read and listen to take control of what children learn in school. 7) Religion Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools. 8) Class Warfare Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor. Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ? Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S. "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."VOLTAIRE

Sounds just like the Obama, Pelosi, Reed, Hillary agenda. Looks like they are achieving their goals. God help us.

What they don't tell you, but which you can infer from reading deToqueville, is where this all leads. It leads to a totalitarian state with the loss of liberty.

I wish Americans would get it and see that these people are the enemy of the great American experiment in self rule and democratic republican form of government. Why do Americans vote for the very people whose stated goal is to destroy us???

May 4th 2014 new
Thanks Clair yes and it's funny (or something) to me how many people are choosing not to believe all of this. I guess the truth is hard to swallow when they are afraid. "It'll never happen to me" God help the U.S.A. Praying hug wave
May 4th 2014 new
Ephesians 5:13-17

And when all things are brought out to the light, then their true nature is clearly revealed; for anything that is clearly revealed becomes light. That is why it is said, "Wake up, sleeper, and rise from death, and Christ will shine on you."




May 4th 2014 new
(quote) Clair-6292 said: If anyone can read this and still say everything is just fine..time to wake up Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today....... Saul David Alinsky, a writer, was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of the modern community organizing movement. He is most noted for his book Rules for Radicals.Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CAEducation: University of ChicagoSpouse: Irene AlinskyBooks: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals Anyone out there think that this stuff isn't happening today in the U.S. ? All eight rules are currently in play How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky: There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important. 1) Healthcare Control healthcare and you control the people 2) Poverty Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live. 3) Debt Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty. 4) Gun Control Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state. 5) Welfare Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income) 6) Education Take control of what people read and listen to take control of what children learn in school. 7) Religion Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools. 8) Class Warfare Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor. Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ? Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S. "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."VOLTAIRE
Thanks. Good post, Clair! Before government can give you everything you want, they must first take everything you have.
May 4th 2014 new
(quote) Gerald-283546 said:

Sounds just like the Obama, Pelosi, Reed, Hillary agenda. Looks like they are achieving their goals. God help us.

What they don't tell you, but which you can infer from reading deToqueville, is where this all leads. It leads to a totalitarian state with the loss of liberty.

I wish Americans would get it and see that these people are the enemy of the great American experiment in self rule and democratic republican form of government. Why do Americans vote for the very people whose stated goal is to destroy us???

Who said, "All evil needs to win is have good people do nothing?"

Hmmmm, Pope Francis took the name to rebuild the Church. He is also asking the layity to get involved with evangelizing. Hope's link SCREAMS why he is asking the laity to get involved.

The Church is not a democracy, God is the King [in. Democracies allow all of the hidden trash to surface!

Whom are you a slave?
May 4th 2014 new
Actyally Jane, from the link Hope shared I'd say it's going to get worse before it gets better. Why? The carp is so deeply imbed in the US culture.

At Fatima Mary warned of the evils of Russia sweeping over the globe and those left behind will wish they were dead!

When sharing my story people say God has great plans for me. I'm pretty ticked and motivated right now. 1+1= Watchout here I come! rosary
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