(quote) Kathleen-878558 said: I'm pretty sure some TLM'ers will disagree with this, but that's ok. Disagree. Agree. All comments are welcome. It's from something I published awhile ago.
"Ever since Vatican II (1962 -1965), there has been a debate within the Catholic Church about which Mass is best and/or authentic. Is it the Traditional Latin Mass, also known as the Tridentine Mass, or is it the new Mass promulgated by Vatican II, called the Novus Ordo?
I am embarrassed to say, but the debate has gotten so intense at times, it has divided the people within our very own Church. With the little research I have done, my sense is that both Masses are beautiful, valid and authentic - when done properly by the priest and congregation. (Yes, the congregation needs to do its part properly too.) Both Masses have their place, and like it is with so many other things in the Catholic Church, it is not an either/or, but a both/and.
Having said that, it is clear that the Novus Ordo has gotten a bad rap because it has been abused so widely; that is, the priest and congregation have gone outside the limits of what Mass is meant to be. One priest recently wrote about his experience celebrating the Novus Ordo [and you may want to read it]. - http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=38684
The bottom line is that we do not have to divide ourselves and put one form of Mass down over another. Instead, we can join together and celebrate both forms for what they literally bring to the Table.
Click here [ http://www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/catholic_mass_full_text.php ]for the text of the English Novus Ordo Mass. Click here [ http://www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/catholic_mass_full_text_latin.php ] for the text of the Traditional Latin Mass."
It is not just the text that makes up the Liturgy. The rubrics and how the priest and congregation adhere to the rubrics are important too. I don't have data on that, though.
Kathleen, this intensity that you speak of that "has divided the people within our very own Church," is indeed a major point of contention between myself -a typically Novus Ordo attendee at Mass- and my good friend who refuses to step foot in a Novus Ordo Mass. He will only attend the Tridentine Mass no matter how far he has to go and has even gone so far as to say the Mass I attend is not a Mass at all! I've gotten into debate after debate, argument after argument, discussion after discussion about this, but he will not budge. I've attended Latin Mass with him on numerous occasions, and I think it is quite beautiful! I've read the articles and books and other sources he's shared to show my his 'side' of Catholicism, to which i always engage and respond with an open mind, yet he will rarely glance at anything I try and send his way to further explain and show the positivity that has occurred in the Church after Vatican II, I truly hurts my heart when he (and many others I've met at a few of the Churches he's attended), out and out dismiss the beauty of a properly done Novus Ordo/Ordinary Form Mass, some of whom are even so bold as to say it is 'fake'
I'm a born and raised Catholic who has held her Faith as best as she can as the basis for how her life is lived, yet this friend of mine, who is a convert of just over a decade, often diminishes my background and experiences of Catholicism because they are ,in his eyes, having taken place as the Church's (as he feels it should still be in the Traditional style) demise and partial protestantising has, according to him, corrupted the essence and meaning of the Mass. *sigh* This is all so strange to me, because other than the practice of the Mass, the majority of other aspects of our Faith are what have drawn us as friends. Personally I see value in both styles of the Mass and simply pray that these two 'sides' can come together to promote the essence of the Catholic Mass and adhere to the ways of Christ.