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It is obvious that there is a real crisis for the religious life, but what about the marriage crisis in that people stay together and raise Holy, large Catholic families? Is the answer to the question more vocations to the priesthood so that way more people can be taught Truth about Holy marriages? Is the answer to fix the marriage crisis first so that we can have better possibility of people having kids who become priests and also that the parents are good, Holy role models for children who end up married? How do we fix both? Does the answer to fixing the crisis to one vocation lie in solving the crisis of the other vocation?
Aug 3rd new

Big question, no big answers here.

Though a good start might be if the priests we already have would start preaching and teaching about marriage....

Aug 3rd new
(quote) Marita-847688 said: It is obvious that there is a real crisis for the religious life, but what about the marriage crisis in that people stay together and raise Holy, large Catholic families? Is the answer to the question more vocations to the priesthood so that way more people can be taught Truth about Holy marriages? Is the answer to fix the marriage crisis first so that we can have better possibility of people having kids who become priests and also that the parents are good, Holy role models for children who end up married? How do we fix both? Does the answer to fixing the crisis to one vocation lie in solving the crisis of the other vocation?
I agree there are critical problems with both vocations. I would, however, argue against the premise that one needs to be fixed before the other: we need to work on both of them immediately, starting with prayer and fasting.

Aug 3rd new
(quote) Marge-938695 said:

Big question, no big answers here.

Though a good start might be if the priests we already have would start preaching and teaching about marriage....

EXACTLY!!
Aug 3rd new
(quote) Jerry-74383 said: I agree there are critical problems with both vocations. I would, however, argue against the premise that one needs to be fixed before the other: we need to work on both of them immediately, starting with prayer and fasting.

Sounds like the status quo....with the same, sad results.
Aug 3rd new
(quote) Marge-938695 said:

Big question, no big answers here.

Though a good start might be if the priests we already have would start preaching and teaching about marriage....

Specifically, about the sins that destroy marriages (contraception, lust, pornography) and the individual issues that fall under the umbrella of modernism.

Sadly, one of the reasons some priests don't talk preach about these things is that they have learned, either through personal or indirect experience, that not only won't they get support from their pastors and ordinaries when the inevitable complaints occur, but that they may well be thrown under the proverbial bus (though some might wish it was a literal bus instead). Of course, there are many others priests who ignore these topics either because their formation was so deficient they don't know what to say, or because of their own failings. Hence, as IS uggested in my previous reply, the need for prayers and sacrifice for the priests and families.


Aug 3rd new
(quote) Joan-529855 said: Sounds like the status quo....with the same, sad results.
I don't think it's the status quo because I don't think there are very many people seriously praying for these intentions, and even fewer fasting.

One thing I didn't mention is that there would be great benefit from these acts eing public efforts, not individuals (though the latter are certainly to be encouraged as well). Fore xample, pray for these intentions in churches on Sundays before or after Mass, or start a blog or Facebook page or group to promote the effort and share information.

Note: I am not directing the above at Joan personally, but making general suggestions. More than one person needs to do these things -- many more.


Aug 4th new
(quote) Marita-847688 said: It is obvious that there is a real crisis for the religious life, but what about the marriage crisis in that people stay together and raise Holy, large Catholic families? Is the answer to the question more vocations to the priesthood so that way more people can be taught Truth about Holy marriages? Is the answer to fix the marriage crisis first so that we can have better possibility of people having kids who become priests and also that the parents are good, Holy role models for children who end up married? How do we fix both? Does the answer to fixing the crisis to one vocation lie in solving the crisis of the other vocation?
Most of the solid vocations to Marriage ,Priesthood,and Religious are coming from the Latin Mass goers IMO.Not a Scientific study,just what I see with my own eyes!The Families there have more children too.
Aug 4th new
I count my blessing every day:
The Archdiocese of Washington currently has 68 seminarians.
The neighboring Archdiocese of Baltimore currently has 29 seminarians.
I grew up in a family of 13
Neighborhood I grew up in had many families of 9+ children - 14 being the most.
Currently there is a friend of mine whom I grew up with at our parish that has 13 children
There are numerous families at my parish that have 6+ children and attend mass as a Family regularly.
I see more couples with their children at mass as opposed to just a mother or father with their children.

There is a prayer, written by the current pastor of my parish, for prayers for vocations to the priesthood that has been read at the end of EVERY Sunday mass at our church for at least the past 15+ years.

So I would say that the prayers for both family and vocations that are said in our church have been the best tool yet in trying to improve the situation.
Aug 4th new
And in regards to the Religious:
We have what has become known as the blue nuns.
ssvmusa.org

Who teach catechism classes at both Sacred Heart Catholic Church in Bowie, MD and St. Mary of the Assumption in Upper Marlboro, MD.




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