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Today 08/07/2014 The White House stopped short Thursday of committing America's military to stopping a potential "genocide" in Iraq, declining to say whether doing so is in "America's core interests." this is on all the news channels more so on Fox about whats happening to the Christians by ISIS . The Holocaust occurs again .
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(quote) Michael-556947 said: Today 08/07/2014 The White House stopped short Thursday of committing America's military to stopping a potential "genocide" in Iraq, declining to say whether doing so is in "America's core interests." this is on all the news channels more so on Fox about whats happening to the Christians by ISIS . The Holocaust occurs again .
Pope Francis, according to spiritdaily.com, is begging world leaders to get involved and save these 40,000 Christians stranded on top of the mountain.

Somebody should tell,Obama, " He who hesitates is lost" ! He can't seem to make a decision on anything!
God help us!
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[Update: 9:00 p.m. GMT:] From the Times (UK): "US carrier is set for attack - The USS George HW Bush, equipped with four squadrons of F/A-18 Super Hornet jet fighters, is waiting for an order from President Obama to launch strikes against the Islamic State"

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[Last update: 11:20 p.m. GMT:] As in Aesop's fable, the mountain in labor gave birth to a mouse... From the U.N. Security Council, a third innocuous "condemnation" of the terrorists, and "support" for the Iraqi government. From the US government so far, not any intervention regarding ISIS, but only humanitarian aid to some isolated groups, dropped without even certainty that it will help them or be seized by the attackers, as it often happens in such circumstances.
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Today America we thought we would learn about Genocide especially under Blill Clinton watch seems it happening again under Obama watch . Liberal who follow socialist communist will never learn .

RWANDA 20 YEARS LATER This year marks the 20th anniversary of the genocide in Rwanda. In 100 days, from April to July 1994, between 500,000 and one million Rwandans, predominantly Tutsis, were massacred when a Hutu extremistled government launched a plan to wipe out the countrys entire Tutsi minority and any others who opposed their policies.
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If you want to understand why in most cases, no government intervenes in cases of genocide, you should read Samantha Power's book "A problem from hell". This extends beyond the US government, or any political party.

I happened to be reading that book at the same time that I was reading one of the Harry Potter books. I was shocked to find that the theme of the two books was the same, a huge evil that nobody wanted to admit was happening. In both books, only a small number of people cried out against the big evil, and the government didn't want to admit it.

For some reason, I am a student of Genocide, and have read a number of books about Genocide. The Cambodian genocide occurred during the Ford administration, so it is not just Democrats who close their eyes to genocide.




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I wonder if it's possible for the CIA to spread the word among the Iraqis, "Any of you guys want to be Saddam Hussein? We admit it -- we really blew it where he was concerned. Here's the deal - you do whatever you have to do to keep order and ensure that Christians and Kurds aren't wiped out and can worship as they please. We'll provide aid and look the other way at your peccadilloes. We'll even consider letting you take Kuwait, it's not like they've done much for us lately".
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(quote) Richard-831657 said: If you want to understand why in most cases, no government intervenes in cases of genocide, you should read Samantha Power's book "A problem from hell". This extends beyond the US government, or any political party.

I happened to be reading that book at the same time that I was reading one of the Harry Potter books. I was shocked to find that the theme of the two books was the same, a huge evil that nobody wanted to admit was happening. In both books, only a small number of people cried out against the big evil, and the government didn't want to admit it.

For some reason, I am a student of Genocide, and have read a number of books about Genocide. The Cambodian genocide occurred during the Ford administration, so it is not just Democrats who close their eyes to genocide.




Hi Richard,

The Cambodian genocide was allowed to happen because the U S Congress prohibited aid and / or assistance or involvement of U S military. Care to guess which party had veto proof majorities at that time ?
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(quote) Bernie-645443 said: Hi Richard,

The Cambodian genocide was allowed to happen because the U S Congress prohibited aid and / or assistance or involvement of U S military. Care to guess which party had veto proof majorities at that time ?
Bernie:

As far as I know, the only case or cases in history where an active genocide was effectively stopped by outside powers was in the ex-Yugoslavia, when Clinton bombed the Serbs into submission. This happened twice, in 1995 in Bosnia and again in 1999 in Kosovo. I will give Clinton credit here for doing the right thing, even if he could have done it sooner.

You could argue that the genocide against the Jews was stopped by the defeat of the Germans in 1945, but WWII was not being fought primarily to stop genocide.

If you can name another example, I would be interested in hearing it. Normally no effective action is taken until the genocide is long over.

You should really study the history of genocide. Nobody has clean hands, nobody, regardless of political party or nationality. Nobody wants to step into a messy situation, so everybody closes their eyes or minimizes it, and the genocide keeps on going.

Richard


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Hi Richard,

Apologies, in daylight I would have maybe caught the word trap of genocide. Genocide is genetic. The specific events in MENA now are mainly mass murders based on religion and politics, possibly genocidal against the Kurds and some tribal elements in Syria and Libya and the proclamations against Israel.

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A fascinating look at Europe when the stakes were less existential : www.amazon.com

As to resistance to genocide, Israel, China 1937-1945, maybe a few others at tribal levels, so your defined point overall stands.
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(quote) Bernie-645443 said: Genocide is genetic.
Typo for "generic"?
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