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This room is for supportive and informative discussion about divorce and/or the annulment process. All posters must have been previously divorced or annulled.

Saint Eugene De Mazenod is patron of dysfunctional families & Saint Fabiola obtained a divorce from her first husband prior to devoting her life to charitable works.
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Having gone through the annulment process, I am always curious about other people's experiences. I actually sought out the process, feeling it might be a step toward shining light on my part in my marriage and family life. It was as if I was called to do it, and that was several years after my divorce. It was part of my reversion to the Catholic Faith. I feel for those who feel pushed into it, but I think God works little miracles in their lives as well.

Here is a CM article worth reading.

4 Reasons to Take Another Look at the Annulment Process
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Aug 22nd new
I also have heard a lot of false rumours about annullment. Got mine about twenty years ago. Wanted to see if their were any special graces available to me and I maybe overlooked them during the marriage. If no valid marriage then no sacramental graces are available to either party. Anyway that was the reason I sought it. Took 3.5 years because the witnesses were reluctant to give "evidence" My mother ultimately decided not to go but my father did eventually.
Aug 26th new
I filled out the paperwork as soon as I got divorced. I cried the whole weekend I did it but felt so much better when it was finished and sent off. I was recently granted an annulment from Philly AD and waiting for review from Baltimore and its only been a year. I learned a lot from the process that I needed to know.
Aug 26th new
Too many annulments are being granted today under the guise of lack of due discretion. The Catholic Church in the United States and Canada grant the majority of marriage annulments (all sacraments are annullable, however marriage is the most frequently annulled sacrament). All you have to do is read scripture and you will know that God never intended for marriages to be annulled. The large numbers of marriage annulments have caused an even greater number of divorces and destruction of the family unit. What a better way to destroy the Catholic Church than to destroy the foundation, the family. By granting marriage annulments the Catholic Church is destroying its own foundation. The demise of the Catholic Church in North America is inevitable.
Aug 26th new
(quote) Joan-529855 said: Too many annulments are being granted today under the guise of lack of due discretion. The Catholic Church in the United States and Canada grant the majority of marriage annulments (all sacraments are annullable, however marriage is the most frequently annulled sacrament). All you have to do is read scripture and you will know that God never intended for marriages to be annulled. The large numbers of marriage annulments have caused an even greater number of divorces and destruction of the family unit. What a better way to destroy the Catholic Church than to destroy the foundation, the family. By granting marriage annulments the Catholic Church is destroying its own foundation. The demise of the Catholic Church in North America is inevitable.

It's not the Church. All you have to do is answer one question: what caused yours?

And now you have the answer, that for valid reasons, annulments are granted.

Aug 27th new
(quote) John-971967 said:

It's not the Church. All you have to do is answer one question: what caused yours?

And now you have the answer, that for valid reasons, annulments are granted.


Every marriage can be annulled because of lack of due discretion, the guidelines are so loose; you just have to know how to fill out the paperwork correctly (not necessarily truthfully) and completely, as well as pay the "fee" (or get the fee waived). Before our civil divorce was final my former spouse met with a former tribunal employee (and former pastor). He gave my husband all of the information he needed in order to secure an annulment. After the civil divorce was final my husband met with a former tribunal lawyer to have him complete the paperwork and submit the annulment papers for him with the assurance that the annulment would be granted because of "lack of due discretion".
Getting an annulment granted is as simple as talking to the right people, getting the correct information, and then using that information to complete the paperwork favorably.
Since our annulment I have reacquainted myself with an old friend who works for a tribunal on the east coast (thanks to FB) and she reaffirmed that as long as the paperwork is filled out affirmatively and completely (not necessarily truthfully), the annulment is granted. We are human, not God. Only God bestows the sacrament of marriage and only God can revoke it.
Aug 27th new
(quote) Joan-529855 said: Too many annulments are being granted today under the guise of lack of due discretion. The Catholic Church in the United States and Canada grant the majority of marriage annulments (all sacraments are annullable, however marriage is the most frequently annulled sacrament). All you have to do is read scripture and you will know that God never intended for marriages to be annulled. The large numbers of marriage annulments have caused an even greater number of divorces and destruction of the family unit. What a better way to destroy the Catholic Church than to destroy the foundation, the family. By granting marriage annulments the Catholic Church is destroying its own foundation. The demise of the Catholic Church in North America is inevitable.
>> Too many annulments are being granted today under the guise of lack of due discretion.

Looking at the process, it appears many bishops have tried to streamline things. I imagine they wanted to ease tribunal caseloads and devote their limited resources to those cases that were the most deserving. (You do agree that some situations truly qualify for an annulment, no?)

In my diocese, seminars were held to explain the process. Individual were trained at the parish to review paperwork prior to submittal to the diocese.

Individuals with no real case for annulment will simply walk away. Murky cases will likely be screened out at the parish level. The best cases will have all their ducks in a row. If the process is well designed and implemented, I would fully expect to see "approval rates" climb. After all, why waste tribunal time reviewing a case that will likely fail?


>> All you have to do is read scripture and you will know that God never intended for marriages to be annulled.

Yes, God intended marriage to last until death do us part. But that doesn't mean every set of exchanged vows qualifies as a marriage.

Just be cautious if trying to interpret scripture against the Church. It's a dicey business.


>> The large numbers of marriage annulments have caused an even greater number of divorces and destruction of the family unit.

This isn't obvious to me. Was there some study that came to this conclusion?


>> By granting marriage annulments the Catholic Church is destroying its own foundation.

The couple must already be divorced. How does a subsequent (and valid) decree of nullity destroy the foundation of the Church?


>> The demise of the Catholic Church in North America is inevitable.

That may be. But I doubt that too many unwarranted annulments will be the cause.





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Aug 27th new
I don't think its the anullments causing divorces but a lot of adultery almost half of marriages someone is committing adultery. Adultery is made more possible and more of a temptation because people contracept and they can avoid getting pregnant etc. and too much porn available online etc. The only reason Jesus gives in the Bible for divorce I have seen is adultery. People need to be better prepared for marriage.......a catholic marriage.......I really think they should be taught NFP, being chaste in marriage and make a commitment to not look at porn etc. I think there should be some paperwork even that the couple signs to show they are committed and believe in the teachings of the church just like a school teacher in a catholic school signs a document that they will live a lifestyle according to catholic church teaching I know they ask if you are open to children but I really think instruction needs to be more in depth so the couple understands and also that its not just lip service they are giving the priest to have a big fancy wedding but that they really believe and will try to follow the teachings of the church in marriage.
Aug 27th new
The process does require honesty but even if he lied on his paperwork there needs to be 4 other witnesses. My 4 witnesses had to have their parish priest sign their witness statement. In my case all 4 witnesses had to meet with their pastor and swear that what they wrote was true.I was interviewed and I had to meet with a psychologist. Its not as easy a process to go thru as I thought. I also was interviewed and my answers taped by the priest that was my lawyer. Did you appeal your annulment? If you don't think the questions were answered honestly you can always appeal. I am sorry you went thru all that it is very difficult.
Aug 27th new
There is always room for compassion and grace
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