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(Quote) Bernard-2709 said: Catholic Priest in San Diego, CA Diocese says Gay Sex is Okay http://www.youtube...
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Catholic Priest in San Diego, CA Diocese says Gay Sex is Okay www.youtube.com

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Fastt forward to the 17 minute mark to hear the specific part

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(Quote) Sean-851370 said: Some areas of the Church haven't been affected as much by myriad problems. There are ...
(Quote) Sean-851370 said:

Some areas of the Church haven't been affected as much by myriad problems. There are some dioceses that aren't bad, mostly in off-the-wall areas. Rest assured, the big ones all have had big problems. Fr. Robert Hoatson sued the Newark Archdiocese a few years ago. He himself is a victim of abuse. His complaint contains dozens of pages detailing the sickening lives of numerous bishops, priests and religious in the Northeast. The problems in the Church really are top-down. You can read about that in the Hoatson complaint. The fact that bishops themselves are doing all this stuff is why the problems are so widespread. And if the bishops in the US are doing this, where is it all coming from? Rome!

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Mary-486033 said:

Sean, I happened to look up and see the above sentence and it compelled me to post. It upsets me that someone would talk about Catholic priests that way. I don't feel the need to spend time (or space here) demonstrating to you that I am a conservative, informed, and educated Catholic who is very aware of the sad state of affairs within some areas of the Church. Just because there is a Judas among us, like Christ experienced personally leading to his very death on the cross, doesn't means all the apostles are rotten. You can't crucify all the apostles because of Judas!

However, I am speaking up for all the holy men who have given me the sacraments, advised, blessed, assisted, taught, supported, and comforted me in my life time. I am and will forever be eternally grateful to them!

Barring a couple of priests (who were dealt with on the diocesan level for abuses), I have been blessed to know so many good priests! My priests are not buffoons on an altar! My priests don't blow the Churches' money on porn. My priests don't have gay buddies. The priests I know who do go to the Caribbean...are missionaries!!!

Please, pray for the priests, bishops and Pope versus talk about them so derogatorily. Not that we shouldn't share information or get upset at the abuses that exist, but you you going too far (in the wrong direction) by making damning statements (such as above) about the lot of Catholic priests or the Catholic Church because of mislead souls who have filtered within the Church and caused scandal. Our Blessed Mother doesn't want that kind of language used on the priesthood.

"In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph!"


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Perhaps the word "some" didn't properly convey my thought process. When I used the word "some" I didn't mean that certain areas of the Church had problems while other areas were completely void of them. I meant that abuses which exist do not constitute evil across the board. And, yes, I understand that some diocese are more affected than others.


Pedophiles position themselves around children. They seek out the educational system, school transportation system, athletics, etc. They sought out the priesthood. You can't extrapolate "that sin" to the teaching profession or priesthood as a rule. It is not the rule, it is an abberation. When that abberation occurs, it is grave and they belong behind bars! But it doesn't define the priesthood.


catholiceducation.org


10 Myths about Priestly Pedophilia


Catholic priests are more likely to be pedophiles than other groups of men.


This is just plain false. There's absolutely no evidence that priests are more likely to abuse children than are other groups of men. The use and abuse of children as objects for the sexual gratification of adults is epidemic in all classes, professions, religions, and ethnic communities across the globe, as figures on child pornography, incest, and child prostitution make abundantly clear. Pedophilia (the sexual abuse of a prepubescent child) among priests is extremely rare, affecting only 0.3% of the entire population of clergy. This figure, cited in the book Pedophiles and Priests by non-Catholic scholar, Philip Jenkins, is from the most comprehensive study to date, which found that only one out of 2,252 priests considered over a thirty-year period was afflicted with pedophilia. In the recent Boston scandal, only four of the more than eighty priests labeled by the media as "pedophiles" are actually guilty of molesting young children.
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We need to support all of the good Priests,and weed out the bad ones.They all need our prayers . Praying

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(Quote) Richard-143340 said: I would say the church is finally growing up, Bernard. This 16th century charade is co...
(Quote) Richard-143340 said:

I would say the church is finally growing up, Bernard. This 16th century charade is collapsing. The world is moving on with, or without the current structure. The Church will look differently, but will flourish.

"Have a little faith, baby, Have a little faith"..(Oddball- Kelly's Heroes)

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There are many Churches out there that call themselves Christian,but only One True Church that Jesus Founded.Without the structure Jesus set up,you have no Church.They are imposter's that claim otherwise!Where the Pope is there is the True Church!

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(Quote) Mary-486033 said: (Quote) Sean-851370 said: Sit in the pew and fork over your money to some ...
(Quote) Mary-486033 said:

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Sean-851370 said: Sit in the pew and fork over your money to some buffoon on the altar who very well could be blowing it on porn and trips with his gay buddies to the Caribbean. Somebody needs to keep this charade going.


Sean, I happened to look up and see the above sentence and it compelled me to post. It upsets me that someone would talk about Catholic priests that way. I don't feel the need to spend time (or space here) demonstrating to you that I am a conservative, informed, and educated Catholic who is very aware of the sad state of affairs within some areas of the Church. Just because there is a Judas among us, like Christ experienced personally leading to his very death on the cross, doesn't means all the apostles are rotten. You can't crucify all the apostles because of Judas!

However, I am speaking up for all the holy men who have given me the sacraments, advised, blessed, assisted, taught, supported, and comforted me in my life time. I am and will forever be eternally grateful to them!

Barring a couple of priests (who were dealt with on the diocesan level for abuses), I have been blessed to know so many good priests! My priests are not buffoons on an altar! My priests don't blow the Churches' money on porn. My priests don't have gay buddies. The priests I know who do go to the Caribbean...are missionaries!!!

Please, pray for the priests, bishops and Pope versus talk about them so derogatorily. Not that we shouldn't share information or get upset at the abuses that exist, but you you going too far (in the wrong direction) by making damning statements (such as above) about the lot of Catholic priests or the Catholic Church because of mislead souls who have filtered within the Church and caused scandal. Our Blessed Mother doesn't want that kind of language used on the priesthood.

"In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph!"

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Anyway, I didn't "stop by" to get into the debate at large. wave

I just came over after reading that disrespectful sentence. eyepopping

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