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05/17/2012 new
(Quote) Donna-83441 said: I haven't read them.. Haven't even heard of them.. I may have to now!
(Quote) Donna-83441 said:

I haven't read them.. Haven't even heard of them.. I may have to now!

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I always suspected you might be naughty! mischievous It's the innocent ones you have to watch out for! shhh wink
05/17/2012 new
(Quote) Missy-358855 said: HI Tammy! Wow-- you really know how to throw one out there, don't you...
(Quote) Missy-358855 said:






HI Tammy! Wow-- you really know how to throw one out there, don't you?!




I was happy to read in your post that the public library system in the county where I live (Brevard) had enough sense to get rid of it. I wonder, however, who made the bonehead decision to purchase them in the first place?! I do not want my tax money being used to purchase porn, soft or otherwise.




As for your question re: whether Catholics, single or otherwise, should read it, well, if it does not elevate the soul or improve your relationship with Christ, then no. We are called to live chaste lives through Christ, which involves much more than just not having sex outside marriage. Being chaste is a state of mind, single or married. Keeping the sexual union between husband and wife sacred is being "chaste." Anything to alter that state of mind would not be appropriate, IMHO. Why would a single person want to inflame their carnal impulses when there is no acceptable way to disperse it except through prayer? and confession....



I will admit that I have lived life on both sides of the "fence" and I prefer the side with Christ in it. Hands down, no contest.




So there you have it-- I threw my stick in the fire. Next!





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This is really a beautiful post and you stated your intentions so eloquently. I must admit, I was much more moved by the Theology of the Body than any other romance novel that I've read. That's true beauty and love.
05/17/2012 new
(Quote) Patrick-466954 said: I haven't read the book and only just now did a quick google search on it. My only comment is th...
(Quote) Patrick-466954 said:

I haven't read the book and only just now did a quick google search on it.

My only comment is this: are you working for the publisher on the side? Your teaser questions have my interest piqued now.

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lil mikie Just your neighborhood techie nerd. No new profession here. wink
05/17/2012 new
(Quote) David-364112 said: not carrying the book isn't the same thing as "banning" it. libraries have limited shelf space a...
(Quote) David-364112 said:

not carrying the book isn't the same thing as "banning" it. libraries have limited shelf space and can't be expected to buy and display every book. you don't see mein kampf in libraries but it's not "banned".




go ahead and read them if you like. read them "with one hand" even, but don't expect commendations.




funny how women berate guys for looking at internet porn then rush out and read over-heated frankly sexual "romance" novels.




a friend of mine put herself through kenyon college writing that stuff. she bought a big box full of romance novels at a garage sale during her senior year in high school. she read them in a matter of months and digested the standard formulas and terms they use. she could spit one out in a weekend then revise it the following wekend. she got $3,000 per book (this was 1978) and wrote about 10 a year. harlequin wasn't the publisher; it was one of the trashier lines but still oje that sold its books in most bookstores and general retail outlets. she used to chortle when she wrote the sex scenes. she was always drunk and would call me up at 3 in the morning to read them to me. she became a university reference librarian. i don't know if she still writes those books. she may. haven't seen her since the late 1980's.





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Thank you for imparting your wisdom so delicately. boggled eyebrow The books were removed from the shelf - they've been 'banned' in several states. I just wonder what makes this so different than other romance novels or the Rated R DVDs that they rent.
05/17/2012 new

(Quote) Tammy-492301 said: Thank you for imparting your wisdom so delicately. The books were removed from the shelf - they&...
(Quote) Tammy-492301 said:

Thank you for imparting your wisdom so delicately. The books were removed from the shelf - they've been 'banned' in several states. I just wonder what makes this so different than other romance novels or the Rated R DVDs that they rent.
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if i know you, you're certainly going to find out!

05/17/2012 new

(Quote) Tammy-492301 said: There have been a few articles and TV segments on the topic of the Fifty Shades of Grey books as ...
(Quote) Tammy-492301 said:

There have been a few articles and TV segments on the topic of the Fifty Shades of Grey books as of late. A couple of states have banned the books; because, they categorized the book as 'porn'.

They author states it's a romance novel while most agree it falls in the erotic literature category.

I'm just going to throw out a couple of questions... Feel free to answer one or all or simply share your opinion. Have you read the book(s)? Would your Catholic faith prevent you from reading them? Is it appropriate for a single adult to read novels such as this? Is it appropriate for a married woman or couple to read this book? Do you think banning the books in public libraries is an over-reaction or a sound decision? If you have read it - Why do you think this book steps over a line whereas, other romance novels do not?

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The erotic novel "Fifty Shades of Grey" may have topped recent bestseller charts, but it's proven a little too hot for librarians in east central Florida.

According to Florida Today,the Brevard County Public Library system has removed copies of the book from its 17 libraries.

"We bought some copies before we realized what it was," Cathy Schweinsberg, library services director, told the newspaper. "We don't collect porn."

However, as the Post points out, the libraries still offer copies of "The Complete Kama Sutra," "Lady Chatterley's Love," and "Tropic of Cancer," all of which are erotic literary classics.

"["Fifty Shades of Grey"] is not a classic," Schweinsberg responded.

ABC2News.com reports that more than a quarter of a million copies of the book have so far been sold

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I started a teacher book club, and a friend of mine (also a church lector) is involved in a teacher book club at her school in another parish. They just read the book. I had already heard it was "mommy porn," so I'm not interested. My chiropractor said that he saw several women reading it at his clinic, so he looked it up to see what it was about. He's a Christian, and he said he now worried about those female patients who were reading it. I mentioned that if my book club wanted to read that book, I would just skip that month, then bring the Bible the next month. ;) Yes, I believe reading "erotic literature" is sinful, just as watching erotic scenes in movies is sinful. Now, if you don't know a movie has something like that in it, and you skip through it, then I think that's okay, as long as you don't dwell over it and let it be lustful. I think it would be extremely difficult to NOT lust whlie reading "erotic literature," plus those scenes would always be in your mind. We all know that women tend to struggle more with sexual fantasies, so this is just feeding into it, IMO.

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Hi Tammy,
This book is the talk of our office as one of the nurses bought it and a girl at the front desk. ONe is married and a practicing christian and theh other is single and doesn't practice her faith.

I saw the author interviewed on tv , she's from England and this book started out on E-book and by word of mouth it got very popular and eventually published and they can't keep copies in the bookstores. It has been labeled as 'soft porn" so "no" I won't be reading it.
I'm glad the Brevard county in Fla. banned it from their library as that's just 45 mins north of me and I hope it trickles down.

I don't think anykind of soft porn is good reading material for any practicing christian, whether catholic or otherwise. My best friend who is Jewish is currently reading it.

It steps over the line because soft porn and romantic novels are two different things - when you start getting into S&M (from what I hear) you're stepping over the line.










(Quote) Tammy-492301 said: There have been a few articles and TV segments on the topic of the Fifty Shades of Grey books as ...
(Quote) Tammy-492301 said:

There have been a few articles and TV segments on the topic of the Fifty Shades of Grey books as of late. A couple of states have banned the books; because, they categorized the book as 'porn'.

They author states it's a romance novel while most agree it falls in the erotic literature category.

I'm just going to throw out a couple of questions... Feel free to answer one or all or simply share your opinion. Have you read the book(s)? Would your Catholic faith prevent you from reading them? Is it appropriate for a single adult to read novels such as this? Is it appropriate for a married woman or couple to read this book? Do you think banning the books in public libraries is an over-reaction or a sound decision? If you have read it - Why do you think this book steps over a line whereas, other romance novels do not?

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The erotic novel "Fifty Shades of Grey" may have topped recent bestseller charts, but it's proven a little too hot for librarians in east central Florida.

According to Florida Today,the Brevard County Public Library system has removed copies of the book from its 17 libraries.

"We bought some copies before we realized what it was," Cathy Schweinsberg, library services director, told the newspaper. "We don't collect porn."

However, as the Post points out, the libraries still offer copies of "The Complete Kama Sutra," "Lady Chatterley's Love," and "Tropic of Cancer," all of which are erotic literary classics.

"["Fifty Shades of Grey"] is not a classic," Schweinsberg responded.

ABC2News.com reports that more than a quarter of a million copies of the book have so far been sold

*titled editted to be a little less.... shocking?

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05/17/2012 new

(Quote) Tammy-492301 said: I always suspected you might be naughty! It's the innocent ones you have to watch out for!
(Quote) Tammy-492301 said:

I always suspected you might be naughty! It's the innocent ones you have to watch out for!
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Where in the world did you get the idea I was INNOCENT??? laughing laughing laughing mischievous laughing laughing laughing

05/17/2012 new

David are you stalking her?

05/17/2012 new

Hi Tammy wave hug

I don't have time to read all the great, classical literature that I'd like to read, so taking my precious time to read trash like that stuff is not on my list of things to do. There are some books that we ought not fill our minds and hearts with ... the "Fifty Shades of Grey" books seem to be among them.

Years ago, Holy Mother, the Church used to censor erotic books, movies, and other forms of entertainment in order to protect Her children. But like everything else, "black-listing" is a thing of the past, to many's downfall. My level of curiosity has waned considerably over the years, as I've more or less trained myself to just say "no" to some things that are objectionable to me and my sensibilities. Lastly, I'd rather be involved with one, very special man, and have a marriage with him that would, I'm sure, more than satisfy any desires that a book (or movie) would conjure up. I've often thought that the authors of such "literature" have only one, no, two things on their minds -- sex and making money. Nothing wrong with sex nor making money, per se, but when that's all they focus on and live for, it's a crying shame.

Interesting post, Tammy ... God bless and keep you. rose rose rose

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