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05/17/2012 new

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I always suspected you might be naughty! It's the innocent ones you have to watch out for!




Where in the world did you get the idea I was INNOCENT???







Donna,

I was wondering the same thing.


Blessings,

Leon




Speaking of naughty... How are you Leon.
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Ms. Tammy,

Life is going great. Thank you for asking.

Regarding your thread - I have not read those books. In fact, I am not familiar with the title. So, can't comment on something I know nothing about. I will say though I have read novels that probably had some of the same themes. In my opinion, I do not feel I was sinning by reading them and certainly did not "act out" or fantasize about the characters. At my age, I look at life like this - if by now I don't know what is going to cause me to sin or be an occasion of sin, I never will.

Just my fickle way of looking at life.

Always enjoy your threads and posts.

Blessings always and hope life is going good for you and to you. Hope the children are doing fine.

Praying hug rose

Leon

05/17/2012 new

I've read them and to answer at least one of your questions I do feel banning the books is an over reaction. People can either choose to read them or not. I'm sure there are people out there who would argue freedom of speech and whatnot.

While I feel at the heart of the books lies a love story, it is pretty intense. I can completely understand why some people could find it detrimental or be adverse to it. That said, I feel secure enough with myself to be able to sit down and read a book and not want to translate it to reality. The only book I'm interested in mimicking is the Bible...

05/17/2012 new

(Quote) Tammy-492301 said: There have been a few articles and TV segments on the topic of the Fifty Shades of Grey books as ...
(Quote) Tammy-492301 said:

There have been a few articles and TV segments on the topic of the Fifty Shades of Grey books as of late. A couple of states have banned the books; because, they categorized the book as 'porn'.

They author states it's a romance novel while most agree it falls in the erotic literature category.

I'm just going to throw out a couple of questions... Feel free to answer one or all or simply share your opinion. Have you read the book(s)? Would your Catholic faith prevent you from reading them? Is it appropriate for a single adult to read novels such as this? Is it appropriate for a married woman or couple to read this book? Do you think banning the books in public libraries is an over-reaction or a sound decision? If you have read it - Why do you think this book steps over a line whereas, other romance novels do not?

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The erotic novel "Fifty Shades of Grey" may have topped recent bestseller charts, but it's proven a little too hot for librarians in east central Florida.

According to Florida Today,the Brevard County Public Library system has removed copies of the book from its 17 libraries.

"We bought some copies before we realized what it was," Cathy Schweinsberg, library services director, told the newspaper. "We don't collect porn."

However, as the Post points out, the libraries still offer copies of "The Complete Kama Sutra," "Lady Chatterley's Love," and "Tropic of Cancer," all of which are erotic literary classics.

"["Fifty Shades of Grey"] is not a classic," Schweinsberg responded.

ABC2News.com reports that more than a quarter of a million copies of the book have so far been sold

*titled editted to be a little less.... shocking?

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05/17/2012 new

Tammy, intersting that you bring up this book. My local paper on Tuesday had a big article on it. And I'll quote: "Grey belongs to a genre known today as 'erotic romance' but a few generations ago would call it 'smut' ". The trilogy focuses on the "relationship between rich entrepreneur Christian Grey and literature student Anastasia Steele. In order to enter a relationship with him, Steele must sign a contract with Grey to become his submissive sex partner. Emotional drama, and lots of bondage, domination and sadomasochism (BDSM) ensue." There you have it in a nutshell.


My county library system has 208 requests for 15 copies. They are getting 22 more copies to meet demand. Some local libraries have declined to carry it. Dubbed "mommy porn", it combines "traditional romance novel with explicit sex". A local book store has an "after hours, special invitation only, erotica book club". A sexologist near Phila. objects to the "possessive,, controlling nature of the male character. ....glorifies being abusive to women". Some bookstore owners are praising it for it's ability to get people to READ!!!


Soooo, sounds like all CMers should rush out and start reading!!!!

05/17/2012 new

(Quote) Angie-70288 said: I've read them and to answer at least one of your questions I do feel banning the books is an ...
(Quote) Angie-70288 said:

I've read them and to answer at least one of your questions I do feel banning the books is an over reaction. People can either choose to read them or not. I'm sure there are people out there who would argue freedom of speech and whatnot.

While I feel at the heart of the books lies a love story, it is pretty intense. I can completely understand why some people could find it detrimental or be adverse to it. That said, I feel secure enough with myself to be able to sit down and read a book and not want to translate it to reality. The only book I'm interested in mimicking is the Bible...

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Angie,

You state, "I feel secure enough with myself to be able to sit down and read a book and not want to translate it to reality. The only book I'm interested in mimicking is the Bible..." My sentiments exactly.

Blessings, Praying hug rose

Leon

05/17/2012 new

(Quote) Leon-593843 said: Donna,I was wondering the same thing. Blessings, Leon ...
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Donna,

I was wondering the same thing.


Blessings,

Leon

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05/18/2012 new

(Quote) Michael-856908 said: David are you stalking her?
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David are you stalking her?

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nope. the opposite. wink

05/18/2012 new

I think that it is completely and utterly ridiculous to ban a book! Now if you're banning for a certain age group, now that is completely understandable, otherwise I don't see what the problem is?

Romance and erotica can be compatible. I heard [I haven't read the book YET], that it has a lot of S&M. Married couples do some S&M stuff all. I don't see why it would be incompatible with my faith. When I get married, my husband better prepare himself for that! All I'm saying!!!!

It's okay for anyone [over the age of 18] to read it. Single and married women! I would suggest married women to read it with their husbands! Put a little passion in the bedroom!

05/18/2012 new

(Quote) Tammy-492301 said: There have been a few articles and TV segments on the topic of the Fifty Shades of Grey books as ...
(Quote) Tammy-492301 said:

There have been a few articles and TV segments on the topic of the Fifty Shades of Grey books as of late. A couple of states have banned the books; because, they categorized the book as 'porn'.

They author states it's a romance novel while most agree it falls in the erotic literature category.

I'm just going to throw out a couple of questions... Feel free to answer one or all or simply share your opinion. Have you read the book(s)? Would your Catholic faith prevent you from reading them? Is it appropriate for a single adult to read novels such as this? Is it appropriate for a married woman or couple to read this book? Do you think banning the books in public libraries is an over-reaction or a sound decision? If you have read it - Why do you think this book steps over a line whereas, other romance novels do not? _________________

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Tammy,

I haven't read the books. I spoke with a friend last night who is waiting for a pdf copy she is going to share. We discussed it, and it supposedly is a more modern version along the lines of "The Story of O." S&M fiction. It's not something I'm going to spend money on.

I'm of the mind that books are books. Fiction is fiction. Reading a murder mystery is not going to cause me to go out and kill someone. Reading about pyromania is not going to cause me to go out and start fires. There is a line though, between good fiction and things that turn my stomach. i.e. I do enjoy SOME Stephen King, but even the thought of Pet Semetary turns my stomach. I can't help it. I choked my way through 'Something Borrowed' hoping that it was going to redeem itself SOMEWHERE!! I devoured the Potter books. I will read a book to stay in touch with current trends - sometimes.

Does this make me less 'catholic?' I'm thinking not. My priest reads MANY secular books to keep a finger on the pulse of current events, books, etc. Do some of them cross the line and offend me? Yes. Do I think banning ANY books is a sound decision. NO, absolutely not, not EVER! For those who are for book banning, please rent a copy, or just watch Footloose. There is a VERY good scene about book burning (banning) and how detrimental it is to society.

My two cents, but reading for me is akin to breathing, something that must be done every day. I read volumes of ALL types of books along with daily meditational reading.

Thanks for an awesome topic!!!
Anne Marie

05/18/2012 new

How'd you manage to re-title the thread?


You and your naughty books. You and your instigating ways! What would we do without you?

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