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10/05/2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: Oh...and lets not forget the issue of foreign policy....we are now more hated and less feared th...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

Oh...and lets not forget the issue of foreign policy....we are now more hated and less feared than ever.

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And let's not forget the HHS mandate, forcing Catholic institutions to violate their conscience.

Otherwise, a great summary of why Obama is an unacceptable candidate. In fact, I might refer to your list of talking points when talking to fellow Catholics.

One technical point... I wouldn't say he is a communist because, as a matter of fact, he is a member of the Democratic Party, not the Communist Party. It is more accurate to say that, without a doubt, he grew up a communist (mentored by Frank Marshall Davis) and his views were essentially marxist much of his adult life. If you ask him now, though, Obama would deny that he is a communist. And don't I think it's fair to label someone a communist if that someone would not label him/herself that way.

As for single issue voting... yes, there are some issues that are dealbreakers by themselves. One as pro-abortion as Obama is should disqualify that person immediately as an acceptable candidate to vote for (unless the opponent is equally unacceptable). To take another example, Democrats routinely try to brand various Republican candidates as racist, and no one in the mainstream would complain much if someone refused to vote for a candidate simply because he/she sincerely believes he is a racist. At least, they probably would not condemn it as "single issue voting."

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10/06/2012 new

(Quote) Florian-626971 said: And let's not forget the HHS mandate, forcing Catholic institutions to violate their consci...
(Quote) Florian-626971 said:

And let's not forget the HHS mandate, forcing Catholic institutions to violate their conscience.

Otherwise, a great summary of why Obama is an unacceptable candidate. In fact, I might refer to your list of talking points when talking to fellow Catholics.

One technical point... I wouldn't say he is a communist because, as a matter of fact, he is a member of the Democratic Party, not the Communist Party. It is more accurate to say that, without a doubt, he grew up a communist (mentored by Frank Marshall Davis) and his views were essentially marxist much of his adult life. If you ask him now, though, Obama would deny that he is a communist. And don't I think it's fair to label someone a communist if that someone would not label him/herself that way.

As for single issue voting... yes, there are some issues that are dealbreakers by themselves. One as pro-abortion as Obama is should disqualify that person immediately as an acceptable candidate to vote for (unless the opponent is equally unacceptable). To take another example, Democrats routinely try to brand various Republican candidates as racist, and no one in the mainstream would complain much if someone refused to vote for a candidate simply because he/she sincerely believes he is a racist. At least, they probably would not condemn it as "single issue voting."

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Just remember, in politics it is always the other guy who must be a single issue voter because I am never one. Even though I may have only voted for the guy because he gave me a phone, or I think he is handsome, or he is (insert whatever floats your boat).

In this country it has reached the point that as a rule someone who identifies themselves as a Democrat will vote for whoever heads the ticket, no matter how unprepared that person might be or how bad a job he may have already done. Republicans are only less so, but as a rule are more likely to abadon the party when it picks a someone who is only being rewarded for the yeoman work they may have done for the party, like Dole or because he looks like a guy who can work with the Dems like McCain.

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10/06/2012 new
(Quote) Florian-626971 said: (Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: Oh...and lets not forget the issue of foreign poli...
(Quote) Florian-626971 said:

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Cheryl-409772 said:



Oh...and lets not forget the issue of foreign policy....we are now more hated and less feared than ever.






And let's not forget the HHS mandate, forcing Catholic institutions to violate their conscience.



Otherwise, a great summary of why Obama is an unacceptable candidate. In fact, I might refer to your list of talking points when talking to fellow Catholics.



One technical point... I wouldn't say he is a communist because, as a matter of fact, he is a member of the Democratic Party, not the Communist Party. It is more accurate to say that, without a doubt, he grew up a communist (mentored by Frank Marshall Davis) and his views were essentially marxist much of his adult life. If you ask him now, though, Obama would deny that he is a communist. And don't I think it's fair to label someone a communist if that someone would not label him/herself that way.



As for single issue voting... yes, there are some issues that are dealbreakers by themselves. One as pro-abortion as Obama is should disqualify that person immediately as an acceptable candidate to vote for (unless the opponent is equally unacceptable). To take another example, Democrats routinely try to brand various Republican candidates as racist, and no one in the mainstream would complain much if someone refused to vote for a candidate simply because he/she sincerely believes he is a racist. At least, they probably would not condemn it as "single issue voting."





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From the beginning of Obama's endeavor to become President of the United States, I considered him to be a socialist and reference him as such. Never considered him to be a "real" democrat. In my mind, he is a socialist mentored by communists. (Socialism is the initial steps to usher in communism.)

Dinesh D'Souza corrects this theory. He considers Obama to be an anti-colonialist.

"The real Obama is a man shaped by experiences far different from those of most Americans; he is a much stranger, more determined, and exponentially more dangerous man than you'd ever imagined. He is not motivated by the civil rights struggles of African Americans in the 1960s those battles leave him wholly untouched. He is not motivated by the socialist or Marxist propaganda that hypnotized a whole generation of wooly minded academics and condescending liberals those concepts also leave him cold.

"What really motivates Barack Obama is an inherited rage an often masked, but profound rage that comes from his African father; an anticolonialist rage against Western dominance, and most especially against the wealth and power of the very nation Barack Obama now leads." www.renewamerica.com

If you haven't seen "2016 Obama's America", do so. On October 16, it will be available on DVD. Every citizen should see this documentary before the election!

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com
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10/07/2012 new

(Quote) Mary-486033 said: (Quote) Florian-626971 said: (Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:
(Quote) Mary-486033 said:
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Florian-626971 said:

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Cheryl-409772 said:



Oh...and lets not forget the issue of foreign policy....we are now more hated and less feared than ever.






And let's not forget the HHS mandate, forcing Catholic institutions to violate their conscience.



Otherwise, a great summary of why Obama is an unacceptable candidate. In fact, I might refer to your list of talking points when talking to fellow Catholics.



One technical point... I wouldn't say he is a communist because, as a matter of fact, he is a member of the Democratic Party, not the Communist Party. It is more accurate to say that, without a doubt, he grew up a communist (mentored by Frank Marshall Davis) and his views were essentially marxist much of his adult life. If you ask him now, though, Obama would deny that he is a communist. And don't I think it's fair to label someone a communist if that someone would not label him/herself that way.



As for single issue voting... yes, there are some issues that are dealbreakers by themselves. One as pro-abortion as Obama is should disqualify that person immediately as an acceptable candidate to vote for (unless the opponent is equally unacceptable). To take another example, Democrats routinely try to brand various Republican candidates as racist, and no one in the mainstream would complain much if someone refused to vote for a candidate simply because he/she sincerely believes he is a racist. At least, they probably would not condemn it as "single issue voting."






From the beginning of Obama's endeavor to become President of the United States, I considered him to be a socialist and reference him as such. Never considered him to be a "real" democrat. In my mind, he is a socialist mentored by communists. (Socialism is the initial steps to usher in communism.)

Dinesh D'Souza corrects this theory. He considers Obama to be an anti-colonialist.

"The real Obama is a man shaped by experiences far different from those of most Americans; he is a much stranger, more determined, and exponentially more dangerous man than you'd ever imagined. He is not motivated by the civil rights struggles of African Americans in the 1960s those battles leave him wholly untouched. He is not motivated by the socialist or Marxist propaganda that hypnotized a whole generation of wooly minded academics and condescending liberals those concepts also leave him cold.

"What really motivates Barack Obama is an inherited rage an often masked, but profound rage that comes from his African father; an anticolonialist rage against Western dominance, and most especially against the wealth and power of the very nation Barack Obama now leads." www.renewamerica.com

If you haven't seen "2016 Obama's America", do so. On October 16, it will be available on DVD. Every citizen should see this documentary before the election!

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com
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Well said.

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10/07/2012 new

(Quote) Ron-26907 said: Romney needs to be pick Obama a part in a Methodical Manner! Also, Ryan needs to get Joe Biden to sl...
(Quote) Ron-26907 said:

Romney needs to be pick Obama a part in a Methodical Manner! Also, Ryan needs to get Joe Biden to slip up! I am hoping that the people 30 and under will desert Obama. They helped him last time!

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Getting Biden to slip up shouldn't be a problem. He does that on his own without much help. I thought Romney did a great job in the first debate. What concerns me is the low class way that Obama and his minions came out against Romney the day after. I wonder how Romney is going to deal with that in the second debate without looking as low class as the democrats have looked since the debate. It seems to me that demagoguery and lying is the democrats plan of attack for the next debate based on the way they are spinning the first debate. Would love some feedback.


- Elizabeth

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10/07/2012 new

(Quote) Shannan-733493 said: I'm not a single-issue voter. But beyond that I'm not going to defend or justify my vie...
(Quote) Shannan-733493 said:

I'm not a single-issue voter. But beyond that I'm not going to defend or justify my views to you all, because you have already labeled me as wrong and as a bad Catholic and bad Christian for disagreeing with your political point of view. I was just pointing out the obvious that many Catholics don't share your choice of presidential candidate, but I'll bow out. As someone pointed out, this thread is for committed Romney supporters to discuss strategy for getting him elected. It's not the place for me, and many others on this site.

Peace.

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Many Germans in WWII were not "single-issue" people either which is why they justified in not paying attention to the "Jewish" issue. The life of an unborn child is an issue that is enough to justify being a "single-issue" voter.


- Elizabeth

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10/07/2012 new

(Quote) Elizabeth-462557 said: Many Germans in WWII were not "single-issue" people either which is wh...
(Quote) Elizabeth-462557 said:


Many Germans in WWII were not "single-issue" people either which is why they justified in not paying attention to the "Jewish" issue. The life of an unborn child is an issue that is enough to justify being a "single-issue" voter.


- Elizabeth

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I think this thread is going to close out fairly soon. And, I truly think there have been so many extremely good suggestions and ideas about what we can do to help Romney/Ryan get elected! I know that some of us have actually started doing things practically to implement these ideas which is wonderful. So, I just wanted to say thank you to virtually everyone who contributed to this thread (minus 1-2 naysayers) for the ideas, the work you're doing, and the praying I know we're all doing! We've got less than a month to go - so let's keep that enthusiasm going until the election!United States Flag

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10/08/2012 new
(Quote) Patricia-29176 said: I think this thread is going to close out fairly soon. And, I truly think there have been so many ex...
(Quote) Patricia-29176 said:



I think this thread is going to close out fairly soon. And, I truly think there have been so many extremely good suggestions and ideas about what we can do to help Romney/Ryan get elected! I know that some of us have actually started doing things practically to implement these ideas which is wonderful. So, I just wanted to say thank you to virtually everyone who contributed to this thread (minus 1-2 naysayers) for the ideas, the work you're doing, and the praying I know we're all doing! We've got less than a month to go - so let's keep that enthusiasm going until the election!

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Patricia,

Would you mind opening Part II of your thread and post the link to Part I for reference?

Some of us are implementing the aforementioned projects and need more volunteers.

There is more work to be done and ideas to share.

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10/09/2012 new

(Quote) Mary-486033 said: Patricia, Would you mind opening Part II of your thread and post the link to Part I for reference...
(Quote) Mary-486033 said: Patricia,

Would you mind opening Part II of your thread and post the link to Part I for reference?

Some of us are implementing the aforementioned projects and need more volunteers.

There is more work to be done and ideas to share.

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Mary, I would be happy to open another thread in this forum Part II of this one. I'm very computer illiterate however, and don't know how to post a link. So, I'll start the thread and I you'd like, you can put a link in there to this thread. Thanks!

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10/09/2012 new
(Quote) Patricia-29176 said: (Quote) Mary-486033 said: Patricia, Would you mind opening Part II of your thread and...
(Quote) Patricia-29176 said:

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Mary-486033 said: Patricia,

Would you mind opening Part II of your thread and post the link to Part I for reference?

Some of us are implementing the aforementioned projects and need more volunteers.

There is more work to be done and ideas to share.




Mary, I would be happy to open another thread in this forum Part II of this one. I'm very computer illiterate however, and don't know how to post a link. So, I'll start the thread and I you'd like, you can put a link in there to this thread. Thanks!

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Thank you so very much Patricia!

After you re-open, I'll post the link to Part I

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