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10/04/2012 new

(Quote) Nicholas-446519 said: I say that Mitt will have two terms. As to abortion I do believe that Mitt will do a much bett...
(Quote) Nicholas-446519 said:

I say that Mitt will have two terms. As to abortion I do believe that Mitt will do a much better job at protecting life. I was originally(bad spelling) a Sanstroum supporter.

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We like to welcome new posters to the forums Nicholas....so welcome.

10/07/2012 new

Why do we have lousy choices? Either choice, the shoe doesn't fit this next round.

10/07/2012 new

(Quote) Ana-840226 said: Why do we have lousy choices? Either choice, the shoe doesn't fit this next round.
(Quote) Ana-840226 said:

Why do we have lousy choices? Either choice, the shoe doesn't fit this next round.

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To really compare the candidates, take a peek at the information being given in the Catholic vote thread. But also....



As Catholics, we are called to vote re: the non-negotiables (abortion being one).

We do NOT have a (perfect) (Christian) candidate to choose from. So when we look at the choices, our purpose should be to choose the candidate most in-line with God's values, and of course one who has a chance to win. That means, if Mr. Candidate #3 looks awesome, but he's a complete unknown (and it's almost mid-October), then, even though we are free to vote for him, there's an almost 100% chance he won't win.


And normally, this is fine. That's what having the freedom to vote is about. But, in this election, our Catholic Church has stepped up to the proverbial plate and has spoken up. There are so many video clips in this Culture and Current Events forum, please feel free to go to other/past topics and click on them. There's so much out there, so much that is NOT being shown on the regular news media. At least one of these clips is from our Catholic Church and how she feels about the current issues, especially the HHS mandate.


This is not even considering what is covered in the 2016 documentary (movie) that is out at theaters right now, coming out on DVD mid-October.


A "non-vote" or a "3rd candidate vote" = a "yes" vote for ALL of Obamacare = an erasure of our religious liberties and freedom.


Our Catholic Church is asking us to protect our religious liberties, so we have to ask ourselves, which candidate is most likely to stop most or all of the HHS mandate? For faithful Catholics, that really IS the question.


And..............(heaven forbid), if, after this November election, the VP becomes the president after something happening to the president, which VP do you feel would MOST align with God's values? Now THAT one is a VERY easy choice, no?



10/08/2012 new

Well, here is the latest news that shows Romney is more honest than Obama anyway...as if we didn't know that already. Obama has apparently been getting illegal campaign contributions from foreign countries! At least 10 percent from China! Countries that would love to influence our election. They actively solicit funds from foreign countries and then avoid using the CVC code from credit cards that enables that it is from the U.S. and they don't have to report it if it is under 200 so the foreigners can keep making repeated 200 dollar donations.


"A new report obtained by Townhall from the non-partisan Government Accountability Institute [GAI] shows the Obama campaign has potentially violated federal election law by failing to prevent the use of fraudulent or foreign credit card transactions on the official Obama for America [OFA] donation webpage.

For the past eight months, GAI has been investigating the potential influence of foreign online campaign donations in House, Senate and presidential elections. The report was conducted using spidering software and found thousands of foreign sites linking to campaign donation pages. The investigation was conducted with the guidance of a former U.S. attorney.

As of September 26, 2012, the Obama campaign has raised $271,327,755 in contributions under $200 for the 2012 cycle. In 2008, it was $335,139,233. The Romney campaign has raised just $58,456,968 in contributions under $200 and has all CVV and online security measures in place. In total, the Obama campaign raised $500 million online in 2008 with $335 million in contributions--more than half--falling under the $200 reporting requirement. Obama has raised more online funds than any campaign in history."

townhall.com



Here is another three page story on it:

dailycaller.com

10/08/2012 new
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: Well, here is the latest news that shows Romney is more honest than Obama anyway...as if we didn't know th...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

Well, here is the latest news that shows Romney is more honest than Obama anyway...as if we didn't know that already. Obama has apparently been getting illegal campaign contributions from foreign countries! At least 10 percent from China! Countries that would love to influence our election. They actively solicit funds from foreign countries and then avoid using the CVC code from credit cards that enables that it is from the U.S. and they don't have to report it if it is under 200 so the foreigners can keep making repeated 200 dollar donations.


"A new report obtained by Townhall from the non-partisan Government Accountability Institute [GAI] shows the Obama campaign has potentially violated federal election law by failing to prevent the use of fraudulent or foreign credit card transactions on the official Obama for America [OFA] donation webpage.



For the past eight months, GAI has been investigating the potential influence of foreign online campaign donations in House, Senate and presidential elections. The report was conducted using spidering software and found thousands of foreign sites linking to campaign donation pages. The investigation was conducted with the guidance of a former U.S. attorney.

As of September 26, 2012, the Obama campaign has raised $271,327,755 in contributions under $200 for the 2012 cycle. In 2008, it was $335,139,233. The Romney campaign has raised just $58,456,968 in contributions under $200 and has all CVV and online security measures in place. In total, the Obama campaign raised $500 million online in 2008 with $335 million in contributions--more than half--falling under the $200 reporting requirement. Obama has raised more online funds than any campaign in history."

townhall.com



Here is another three page story on it:

dailycaller.com

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And absolutely no one has the spine to hold Obama and his campaign accountable for violating our laws, save the voters.
10/08/2012 new

(Quote) Wendy-387654 said: To really compare the candidates, take a peek at the information being given in the ...
(Quote) Wendy-387654 said:


To really compare the candidates, take a peek at the information being given in the Catholic vote thread. But also....



As Catholics, we are called to vote re: the non-negotiables (abortion being one).

We do NOT have a (perfect) (Christian) candidate to choose from. So when we look at the choices, our purpose should be to choose the candidate most in-line with God's values, and of course one who has a chance to win. That means, if Mr. Candidate #3 looks awesome, but he's a complete unknown (and it's almost mid-October), then, even though we are free to vote for him, there's an almost 100% chance he won't win.


And normally, this is fine. That's what having the freedom to vote is about. But, in this election, our Catholic Church has stepped up to the proverbial plate and has spoken up. There are so many video clips in this Culture and Current Events forum, please feel free to go to other/past topics and click on them. There's so much out there, so much that is NOT being shown on the regular news media. At least one of these clips is from our Catholic Church and how she feels about the current issues, especially the HHS mandate.


This is not even considering what is covered in the 2016 documentary (movie) that is out at theaters right now, coming out on DVD mid-October.


A "non-vote" or a "3rd candidate vote" = a "yes" vote for ALL of Obamacare = an erasure of our religious liberties and freedom.


Our Catholic Church is asking us to protect our religious liberties, so we have to ask ourselves, which candidate is most likely to stop most or all of the HHS mandate? For faithful Catholics, that really IS the question.


And..............(heaven forbid), if, after this November election, the VP becomes the president after something happening to the president, which VP do you feel would MOST align with God's values? Now THAT one is a VERY easy choice, no?



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Excellent post Wendy! I agree 100%. We live in a sinful world where "perfect" doesn't exist. Most will agree that Romney and Obama are not equally evil, but that Obama has actively worked to destroy Christian values in the name of politics. We are called by our faith to follow the LIGHT and turn away from the darkness. The road is jagged, but we must make the best choice (from the choices available) towards that which is MOST in line with God's will as you stated.

We have the power to defeat this assault on Christian values - but first, a quick math lesson. If I vote for Obama, and you vote for Romney, we're even - nobody wins. Our votes cancelled out. But if I vote for Obama, and you vote for a third candidate, or refuse to vote, then that vote for Romney that would cancel out my vote didn't happen, and so Obama is ahead by one vote. Please Ana, re-read this paragraph and know that there are only two realistic outcomes, and that as Christians we are called to move towards the LIGHT.

10/08/2012 new
(Quote) Cathy-620979 said: So you all agree with Craig that Romney will win the election and serve only one term? Because he, too, will b...
(Quote) Cathy-620979 said:

So you all agree with Craig that Romney will win the election and serve only one term? Because he, too, will be judged inadequate?





"A good man is hard to find." - Flannery O'Connor

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I just now read Cathy's post from a week ago. Her quote is valid. "A good man (or woman) is hard to Find"

Craig opened this chain of discussion by stating Romney would be a one term president and most of you agree. I say this is speculation. We cannot know how Romney or any other president will react in a given situation. If he takes action to resolve the nation's problems in a moral and just way he would be re-elected. If he does not perform he will lose.

It doesn't really matter if we have a one term president or not. It depends on how well he performed. Unfortunately most presidential elections have been mere popularity contests without regard to performance.
10/08/2012 new

They say it is always best to vote for the candidate that is the lesser of the two evils. Romney is the lesser of the two evils and it is important that Catholics vote for him. When you do not vote, you will be giving your vote away to Obama.

Do you really want Obama to win? Look at the past four years. His hope and change did not work. We are not better off than the last four years. Look at our economy, HHS Mandate, abortion -- is this enough already.

According to the Illinois Right to Life, Obama is totally opposed to Pro-Life issues. Romney is fully pro-life with the exception of rape and incest.

Even though Romney is not really the best candidate, he is the best we have now. If Romney is elected, at least this is a start to getting our country back on the right path. The next time there is an election we may have a better candidate than Romney. We have to start somewhere. If Obama is elected I hate to see what the next four years will look like.

Vote your conscience. Think about what you really want your country to look like. We are now at a crossroads.

Do you want freedom or do you want socialism or communism?

THE FIVE NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES FOR VOTING CATHOLICS

1. Abortion
2. Euthanasia
3. Fetal Stem Cell Research
4. Human Cloning
5. Homosexual "Marriage"






10/08/2012 new
(Quote) Cathy-620979 said: Nobody is good enough to be president. Just like nobody is good enough to be th...
(Quote) Cathy-620979 said:

Nobody is good enough to be president.





Just like nobody is good enough to be the husband or wife of single people on CM.



Never settle. Always hold out for someone better.



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What does this statement have to do with the topic?

People on CM who hold out want to marry a Catholic.

Catholics will support Romney, who upholds Catholic values.
10/09/2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: Yes, he was my least favorite, but he is now the only choice....we cannot vote for intrinsic ev...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

Yes, he was my least favorite, but he is now the only choice....we cannot vote for intrinsic evil like abortion as in the case of Obama and expect to be safe from hell.


www.churchmilitant.tv


"voting for a supporter of intrinsic evil places your soul in danger of eternal damnation"

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Wise quote, who can said it? Why is it that so many Catholics are not pro-life and do not vote pro-life...I know, more prayer is needed. I have asked my priest who to vote for in CT local elections because they are both pro-abortion (never like to say pro-choice as it's too nice of a word for the killings of innocent) and for same-sex marriage. Romney is a good man; here's to Paul Ryan being successful in making Romney a convert as nothing is impossible with God!

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