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Nov 28th 2012 new

(Quote) Marianne-100218 said: (Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Patricia et alia,Nice to k...
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said:

Quote:
James-17080 said:



Hi Patricia et alia,

Nice to know the doctors are speaking out. Where were they in the past, when bills went through the roof, and it was the insurance companies telling them what they could do. What about that?

James ☺




It seems the doctors have to contend with frivilous lawsuits. So insurance companies have a vested interest in
what and how doctors do things. It is a vicious cycle.

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Yes, maybe, sometimes. But they more often seem to get away with denying care altogether, which is something nobody here seems to be bothered with.

James ☺

Nov 28th 2012 new

(Quote) Marianne-100218 said: (Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Patricia et alia,Nice to k...
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said:

Quote:
James-17080 said:



Hi Patricia et alia,

Nice to know the doctors are speaking out. Where were they in the past, when bills went through the roof, and it was the insurance companies telling them what they could do. What about that?

James ☺




It seems the doctors have to contend with frivilous lawsuits. So insurance companies have a vested interest in
what and how doctors do things. It is a vicious cycle.

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Hi Marianne et alia,

I was hoping to hear from Patricia. Gee, I hope she ain't upset with me.

wink

James ☺

Nov 28th 2012 new
"There might still be one fatal roadblock to Obamacare... With Obamas re-election, Obamacare appeared inevitable. But what if Americans simply refused to comply? A number of governors have rejected insurance exchanges and won't make their states liable for crippling new Medicaid costs. Businesses large and small are firing workers and cutting hours to avoid the full time employee levels that would trigger ruinous health care costs. And the Community College of Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, is slashing the hours of 400 teachers to avoid Obamacare mandates.* Union teachers are the Democrats staunchest supporters, and suddenly, they're becoming part time employees. That finally has some Democrats in Congress saying that Obamacare may have to be "revisited." Or more accurately, its creators may finally have to visit reality for the very first time." ~ Mike Huckabee

*"Pennsylvania's Community College of Allegheny County (CCAC) is slashing the hours of 400 adjunct instructors, support staff, and part-time instructors to dodge paying for Obamacare." www.breitbart.com
Nov 28th 2012 new

(Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Marianne et alia,I was hoping to hear from Patricia. Gee, I hope she ain...
(Quote) James-17080 said:




Hi Marianne et alia,

I was hoping to hear from Patricia. Gee, I hope she ain't upset with me.



James ☺

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Since she did not respond, I thought I'd give it a shot. Sorry.

Nov 28th 2012 new

(Quote) Mary-486033 said: "There might still be one fatal roadblock to Obamacare... With Obamas re-election, Obamacare appeare...
(Quote) Mary-486033 said: "There might still be one fatal roadblock to Obamacare... With Obamas re-election, Obamacare appeared inevitable. But what if Americans simply refused to comply? A number of governors have rejected insurance exchanges and won't make their states liable for crippling new Medicaid costs. Businesses large and small are firing workers and cutting hours to avoid the full time employee levels that would trigger ruinous health care costs. And the Community College of Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, is slashing the hours of 400 teachers to avoid Obamacare mandates.* Union teachers are the Democrats staunchest supporters, and suddenly, they're becoming part time employees. That finally has some Democrats in Congress saying that Obamacare may have to be "revisited." Or more accurately, its creators may finally have to visit reality for the very first time." ~ Mike Huckabee

*"Pennsylvania's Community College of Allegheny County (CCAC) is slashing the hours of 400 adjunct instructors, support staff, and part-time instructors to dodge paying for Obamacare." www.breitbart.com
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More is happening out there than we know. I do know that small companies are not hiring any new employees so not to
be involved in this expensive Obamacare. So, as was stated above, methods of avoiding Obamacare are being used. That
just may have the rational incentive to re examine Obamacare. Not a minute too soon. Thank heavens.

Nov 28th 2012 new

(Quote) James-17080 said: Yes, maybe, sometimes. But they more often seem to get away with denying care altogether, ...
(Quote) James-17080 said:



Yes, maybe, sometimes. But they more often seem to get away with denying care altogether, which is something nobody here seems to be bothered with.

James ☺

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Why don't you find a person who has been denied care, and take them to a doctor? That will start to solve some of the problem.

Nov 28th 2012 new

(Quote) Marianne-100218 said: (Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Marianne et alia,I was...
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said:

Quote:
James-17080 said:




Hi Marianne et alia,

I was hoping to hear from Patricia. Gee, I hope she ain't upset with me.



James ☺




Since she did not respond, I thought I'd give it a shot. Sorry.

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That's okay, no need to apologize. No problem.

James ☺

Nov 28th 2012 new

(Quote) Marianne-100218 said: (Quote) James-17080 said: Yes, maybe, sometimes. But they more ...
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said:

Quote:
James-17080 said:



Yes, maybe, sometimes. But they more often seem to get away with denying care altogether, which is something nobody here seems to be bothered with.

James ☺




Why don't you find a person who has been denied care, and take them to a doctor? That will start to solve some of the problem.

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The reason I cannot do what you suggest is that I am in a position to perform such an action, noble as it may be.

I cannot the discuss the whys in public.

James ☺

Nov 28th 2012 new
(Quote) Mary-486033 said: And even more good news... 20 States have stated their intentions not to set up a State Exchange wi...
(Quote) Mary-486033 said: And even more good news...



20 States have stated their intentions not to set up a State Exchange with Obamacare! (Another angle to defeat it.)



"Use this page to find out where your state stands on the ObamaCare "exchange" - and to help us stand up to ObamaCare (by submitting this petition to your governor). www.freedomworks.org



Since the election, now fully two weeks ago, health policy experts such as our own Dean Clancy have been eagerly pointing out that those of us who believe in limited government still have a very real opportunity to halt one of the largest government intrusions of the past century - ObamaCare.



Blogger Rusty Weiss has presented a good, concise summary of how a number of states refusing to set up ObamaCare's health care exchanges could throw a wrench in the implementation of the law.



As several governors have noted, these exchanges will be largely federally controlled anyways, so why should states waste their time and resources setting them up, when refusing to do so could prevent the government from invading their state's health care system at all? The deadline to set up a state-run exchange was November 16th.



Happily, twenty states have stated their intentions not to set up a state exchange:



Alabama, Alaska, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Virginia, Wyoming, Wisconsin



Having forty percent of the states resist the ObamaCare exchanges is a major problem for the administration. Some folks in the media, of course, have criticized these states for refusing to "get with the program". Our Vice President of Health Care Policy, Dean Clancy, has this to say in reply...



But for residents of these states, it is important that you remain vigilant and encourage your governors to hold the line, because they now have another month during which they could be pressured to change their minds. The Department of Health and Human Services has pushed the deadline for planning to set up an exchange to December 14th of this year.



Six states are taking full advantage of the extended deadline, and are waiting to announce whether they will implement an exchange. It is especially crucial that residents of these states put pressure on their governors to avoid setting up an exchange (click on a state to Take Action and send a message to your governor):



Arizona, Florida, Idaho, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Tennessee. www.freedomworks.org



All six of these governors are Republicans who have stated their opposition to ObamaCare in the past. There is no excuse for them to cave now and force their states to pay for ObamaCares crucial infrastructure.



The remainder of the states (AR, CA, CO, CT, DE, HI, IA, IL, KY, MA, MD, MI, MN, MS, NC, NM, NV, NY, OR, RI, VT, WA, WV) have declared their intention to implement either a partially or fully state-run exchange. This does not mean, however, that residents in those states should give up hope. Iowa, Michigan, North Carolina, and New Mexico are four states where a determined grassroots outcry could cause their governors to perhaps think twice about their decision, and in all of these states it would be constructive to contact your state governments to let them know your thoughts on their decisions.



As a last note, it is worth pointing out the case of Utah, where the situation is decidedly different from most other states. Utah had already established a state health care exchange before ObamaCare was even passed. However, this exchange was extremely tailored to the states needs and is in many ways incompatible with the health care laws requirements of state exchanges. It remains to be seen whether the federal government will attempt to force Utah to bring its exchange into compliance with federal law, and that fight will bring up fundamental questions of federalism a states ability to chart its own course within an increasingly monolithic federal government.



** Update, 26 November - North Dakota has been tentatively moved to "not implementing exchange", but unfortunately Florida has replaced it in the "undecided" column."
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"Despite the 're-election' of Obama, our last chance to stop Obamacare is December 14....the deadline for state Governors to refuse implementation of the federal insurance "takeover centers" (AKA "insurance exchanges").

Please call AND e-mail your state Governor's/Representative's office and tell them NOT TO IMPLEMENT YOUR STATE EXCHANGE!!"

The Complete List of E-mail Addresses and Fax Numbers for the U.S. Congress and Governors. www.conservativeusa.org
Nov 28th 2012 new
(Quote) Mary-486033 said: And even more good news... 20 States have stated their intentions not to set up a State Exchange wi...
(Quote) Mary-486033 said: And even more good news...



20 States have stated their intentions not to set up a State Exchange with Obamacare! (Another angle to defeat it.)



"Use this page to find out where your state stands on the ObamaCare "exchange" - and to help us stand up to ObamaCare (by submitting this petition to your governor). www.freedomworks.org



Since the election, now fully two weeks ago, health policy experts such as our own Dean Clancy have been eagerly pointing out that those of us who believe in limited government still have a very real opportunity to halt one of the largest government intrusions of the past century - ObamaCare.



Blogger Rusty Weiss has presented a good, concise summary of how a number of states refusing to set up ObamaCare's health care exchanges could throw a wrench in the implementation of the law.



As several governors have noted, these exchanges will be largely federally controlled anyways, so why should states waste their time and resources setting them up, when refusing to do so could prevent the government from invading their state's health care system at all? The deadline to set up a state-run exchange was November 16th.



Happily, twenty states have stated their intentions not to set up a state exchange:



Alabama, Alaska, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Virginia, Wyoming, Wisconsin



Having forty percent of the states resist the ObamaCare exchanges is a major problem for the administration. Some folks in the media, of course, have criticized these states for refusing to "get with the program". Our Vice President of Health Care Policy, Dean Clancy, has this to say in reply...



But for residents of these states, it is important that you remain vigilant and encourage your governors to hold the line, because they now have another month during which they could be pressured to change their minds. The Department of Health and Human Services has pushed the deadline for planning to set up an exchange to December 14th of this year.



Six states are taking full advantage of the extended deadline, and are waiting to announce whether they will implement an exchange. It is especially crucial that residents of these states put pressure on their governors to avoid setting up an exchange (click on a state to Take Action and send a message to your governor):



Arizona, Florida, Idaho, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Tennessee. www.freedomworks.org



All six of these governors are Republicans who have stated their opposition to ObamaCare in the past. There is no excuse for them to cave now and force their states to pay for ObamaCares crucial infrastructure.



The remainder of the states (AR, CA, CO, CT, DE, HI, IA, IL, KY, MA, MD, MI, MN, MS, NC, NM, NV, NY, OR, RI, VT, WA, WV) have declared their intention to implement either a partially or fully state-run exchange. This does not mean, however, that residents in those states should give up hope. Iowa, Michigan, North Carolina, and New Mexico are four states where a determined grassroots outcry could cause their governors to perhaps think twice about their decision, and in all of these states it would be constructive to contact your state governments to let them know your thoughts on their decisions.



As a last note, it is worth pointing out the case of Utah, where the situation is decidedly different from most other states. Utah had already established a state health care exchange before ObamaCare was even passed. However, this exchange was extremely tailored to the states needs and is in many ways incompatible with the health care laws requirements of state exchanges. It remains to be seen whether the federal government will attempt to force Utah to bring its exchange into compliance with federal law, and that fight will bring up fundamental questions of federalism a states ability to chart its own course within an increasingly monolithic federal government.



** Update, 26 November - North Dakota has been tentatively moved to "not implementing exchange", but unfortunately Florida has replaced it in the "undecided" column."
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God Bless Texas!! cowboy
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