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Some people say America is turning socialistic, meaning transference of wealth,
because that is what is needed for votes.

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Hi Michael et alia,

Nice to meet you. I'm STM's @#$%$^%^& in residence.

I seen this word socialism used again and again in STM. So, maybe this is the time to reflect on this question:

What do you mean by "socialism"?

I eagerly await your answers.

James ☺

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(Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Michael et alia,Nice to meet you. I'm STM's @#$%$^%^& in reside...
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Hi Michael et alia,

Nice to meet you. I'm STM's @#$%$^%^& in residence.

I seen this word socialism used again and again in STM. So, maybe this is the time to reflect on this question:

What do you mean by "socialism"?

I eagerly await your answers.

James ☺

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From the Webster's Online dictionary, the following defintion is the most appropriate given the context:

Socialism: Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods In the present situation the closest of the "various" theories is fascism, where the government administers selected corporations as the industry of the nation to the point that there is no fine line between the state and the corporation. That is to say one cannot tell where ther Obama administration ends and, say, General Electric or Goldman Sachs begins.
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(Quote) Steven-706921 said: From the Webster's Online dictionary, the following defintion is the most appropria...
(Quote) Steven-706921 said:

From the Webster's Online dictionary, the following defintion is the most appropriate given the context:

Socialism: Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods In the present situation the closest of the "various" theories is fascism, where the government administers selected corporations as the industry of the nation to the point that there is no fine line between the state and the corporation. That is to say one cannot tell where ther Obama administration ends and, say, General Electric or Goldman Sachs begins.

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Ok, now that we got the dictionary definition, I would like to add that socialists are those that want other
people's money or medicine or property, and think it is their right to have it. Mind you, have it, not work for it.

They got that way because they were brainwashed into thinking that way from their socialist leaders. That attitude also
dampens a populations imagination to invent or create or produce. Instead of looking to achieve wealth,
they look to redistribute it.

Does that answer your question, Mr. STM %$#&%^+?

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(Quote) Marianne-100218 said: Some people say America is turning socialistic, meaning transference of wealth,bec...
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Some people say America is turning socialistic, meaning transference of wealth,
because that is what is needed for votes.

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So, if America turned socialistic to get votes, that is a never ending cycle. Voting for President
in America is not restricted to American citizens. In many states, just proving your residency is enough
to register to vote, and then vote.

If people vote for those who give them social services and food and medical care, then more people
will come to America for those things. All of them will vote for the person promising them those
things they came for, and the cycle goes on and on.

So, that is why America has chosen Socialism, Michael. That is why people don't care about the
fundamentals of a Budget or adding to the National Debt.

And it doesn't look like things are going to change any time soon. Oh, well, when the ship goes
down, they will be on it too. But then, they have other countries to go back to. Do you have a
country to go back to, Michael? I don't.

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(Quote) Steven-706921 said: (Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Michael et alia,Nice to ...
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James-17080 said:




Hi Michael et alia,

Nice to meet you. I'm STM's @#$%$^%^& in residence.

I seen this word socialism used again and again in STM. So, maybe this is the time to reflect on this question:

What do you mean by "socialism"?

I eagerly await your answers.

James ☺


From the Webster's Online dictionary, the following defintion is the most appropriate given the context:

Socialism: Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goodsIn the present situation the closest of the "various" theories is fascism, where the government administers selected corporations as the industry of the nation to the point that there is no fine line between the state and the corporation. That is to say one cannot tell where ther Obama administration ends and, say, General Electric or Goldman Sachs begins.

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The closest I could find is this:

www.merriam-webster.com


Definition of SOCIALISM

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Please provide the link to your definition.

James ☺
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James,

I think Steve's definition (see below) fits in with the one you provided:


Socialism: Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods



He's citing Webster as well; is this not your source?

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(Quote) William-607613 said: James,I think Steve's definition (see below) fits in with the one you provided:
(Quote) William-607613 said:

James,

I think Steve's definition (see below) fits in with the one you provided:


Socialism: Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods



He's citing Webster as well; is this not your source?

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I did cite Webster, definition one (1).

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(Quote) William-607613 said: James,I think Steve's definition (see below) fits in with the one you provided:
(Quote) William-607613 said:

James,

I think Steve's definition (see below) fits in with the one you provided:


Socialism: Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods



He's citing Webster as well; is this not your source?

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Hi William et alia,

Yes, okay. I must admit I was a little confused. The problem is that Steve decided to interject his own opinions into a definition, thus muddying the waters. And linking Obama to fascism is really muddying the waters, a fault which might very well be laid at the feet of Jonah Goldberg.

Several years ago, we had a young firebrand conservative here who just graduated college. He was a doctrinaire conservative, a lover of Bush and the Iraq War, and so on. But he was a liberal in on very peculiar aspect: he was all in favour of student loans. When I asked him about this, he said, "Well, uh, I couldn't have gone to college without them". He was a liberal only when it suited his interest. Why do I bring this up? Because in this case, my young friend was a socialist. The student loan program was administered by the federal government, who distributed the money to the students.

Let's take another example. Water, and the distribution of water. Here in Chicago, water is secured from Lake Michigan and purified, and all of this is done by the city on the cheap. In other places, private firms do this sort of thing, for considerably more money. Why? Private firms have an incentive, (and a legal obligation if the firm is publicly traded) to put profits over services. Clearly letting the state handle the water is a better option. Or what some here might classify as "socialism"

James ☺

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