(Quote) Angela-374523 said:
While I cannot speak to how things are in the US or how they should be, as a Catholic, and as so...
(Quote) Angela-374523 said:
While I cannot speak to how things are in the US or how they should be, as a Catholic, and as someone who used to work in the non-profit charitable sector, I'd like to offer a few comments based on my experiences.
There are so many individuals and families in genuine need to various degrees that no single government agency, program, or charity can possibly deal with it all. This is especially the case if illness, death or disability hit the family. Charities and government work together (sometimes in the same office building, sometimes meeting in person or on the phone) to discuss their caseloads and how gaps can be addressed.
People who are trying to scam government social services are often also trying to scam charities. We'd be in contact with officials dispensing government social assistance about Mr. X or Ms. X with a sob story that didn't make sense or that had no corroboration, and wasn't their request covered by the money that they already received, and so on. There are people out there that are so brazen that they will walk up to a priest with a story (perhaps at least partly true, perhaps not) in order to get "poorbox" money. Almost every government social assistance program in every country has rules, qualification criteria, means tests, and requests have to be corroborated with doctor's letters or other evidence. It's all part of the paperwork.
Do scammers get away with things? Well, I suppose they do in some cases. Am I going to stop paying taxes? No. Am I going to stop donating to my Church and other charities? No. The money that comes out of my pocket that helps those in genuine need is far important to me than the few that rip people off. But that's just me.
Angela: Again, thanks for your helpful input. I wonder if all the agencies in America work together like they do where you
work. You know, I really would bet against it. The system is so big, and there is so much overlap.
One thing I have to say is that illegals or others that work off the books have a leg up on those who are subject to the
income criteria that is the basis for qualifying in a lot of programs. One can loose their whole house because of a heart attack or illness,
but if they made a certain amount of money above the cutoff in the last tax year, they are just out of luck.
First of all, I want to say that I have been to social services to help out my Great Aunt who was 93. She could not get down
the stairs to get to the offices, so I went for her. Secondly I want to say that I was one of the only ones who spoke English
in the waiting area. That was in White Plains, NY. I waited almost 2 hours for my case to be called. And in order for my
great aunt to get any help, she had to give back a few hundred dollars from the pension she received every month for a job
she worked in until she was 84 years old. That was the ILGWU. She only stopped working because the union moved to another
state. She had to live with a sister of hers because she could not even afford the rent here in NY, never mind food or medical
It is very discouraging to have seen this in the waiting area. Actually, it makes me mad. And it was even worse that my aunt
had to rely on family to get her through life at this point of her life. But as I said, it was families that were counted on to help
in the good old days and thank goodness she had family to get her through. Now the family unit is being destroyed and
we have to live with the consequences.
I still don't want to be taxed so much and I don't want to feed another family who is irresponsible and milking the system. I
am just tired of it. I see the consequences and they are only getting worse. "I miss the America I grew up in."