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Nov 16th 2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: Well, it is true they can't do it well....look at the post office....going bankrupt all the ...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

Well, it is true they can't do it well....look at the post office....going bankrupt all the time and having to be "covered" by tax payers.

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Truthfully, Cheryl, the US Post Office is not run by the Federal Government. It is run by a private company but under the
jurisdiction of the Federal Government. It is called a Quasi Governmental Agency. It was supposed to be more efficient
to have an outside company run it. I think it is run very well, but I have a feeling the Unions and their pensions has
bankrupted it.

These unions have consumers paying the salary of the worker and at the same time a salary to the person retire.
That is like paying 2 salaries for the price of one. The unions are very powerful. It is catching up with them though
because the post office is always broke.

Nov 16th 2012 new

(Quote) Marianne-100218 said:Truthfully, Cheryl, the US Post Office is not run by the Federal Government. It is run by a privat...
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said:
Truthfully, Cheryl, the US Post Office is not run by the Federal Government. It is run by a private company but under the
jurisdiction of the Federal Government. It is called a Quasi Governmental Agency. It was supposed to be more efficient
to have an outside company run it. I think it is run very well, but I have a feeling the Unions and their pensions has
bankrupted it.

These unions have consumers paying the salary of the worker and at the same time a salary to the person retire.
That is like paying 2 salaries for the price of one. The unions are very powerful. It is catching up with them though
because the post office is always broke.

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Not exactly an accurate characterization of the Post Office organization.

It is set up as a Government Corporation.Uncle Sam owns all the stock. All PO employees are Government employees and are part of the Federal Government Pension plans.The people who run it are appointed by the President.

It was set up this way to get the PO off budget. The hope, of course, was that it could operate at a profit. It has not done so since it was set up. Its income has been less than its income. One of the main expenses other than pay was the pension costs which are all dictated by Congress. The income has never been enough for the PO to set aside funds for machine and building updates, etc.

Congress dictates mail delivery 6 days a week. Like most bureaucracies, promotion to management positions has little to do with abilities. Seniority plays the major part. Intelligent postal workers will tell you that working conditions would have Private employer in trouble for abusing employees.

Now mail volume is dropping. Face it, not many people write letters anymore. It is virtually non-competitive in the package delivery business. More and more companies are urging their customers to accept e-mail billing because US Mail is too expensive. Magazine delivery used to be a big part of the POs business. But subscriptions have been dropping dramatically.

Years ago, a busines group I belong to had the local Postmaster as a guest speaker. He went on and on about how they had improved delivery serivce and boasted about the fact that a coast to coast letter was deliverd within 3 days of mailing 90% of the time.

So I asked, what was the standard for a first class letter between Seattle and Chicago. He replied 2 days and that standard was met 90% of the time. So I then asked how come all letters between me and and my parents in Chicago always fell into the 10% category 100% of the time and I opined that it was a statistical impossibility for that to happen. So he asked me how long it took. I told him 4 days 100% of the time. At that he stopped taking questions and concluded his presentation and left.

Nov 16th 2012 new
You go Cheryl! I dont see anything hurtful or at all 'untrue' about your posts hear! They seem very thoughtful and Pro gospel (Catholic) !! Im not sure what is going on with this judgdment, but I would not worry about it.. :-) God speed, and God Bless you!!!
Nov 16th 2012 new

While I cannot speak to how things are in the US or how they should be, as a Catholic, and as someone who used to work in the non-profit charitable sector, I'd like to offer a few comments based on my experiences.

There are so many individuals and families in genuine need to various degrees that no single government agency, program, or charity can possibly deal with it all. This is especially the case if illness, death or disability hit the family. Charities and government work together (sometimes in the same office building, sometimes meeting in person or on the phone) to discuss their caseloads and how gaps can be addressed.

People who are trying to scam government social services are often also trying to scam charities. We'd be in contact with officials dispensing government social assistance about Mr. X or Ms. X with a sob story that didn't make sense or that had no corroboration, and wasn't their request covered by the money that they already received, and so on. There are people out there that are so brazen that they will walk up to a priest with a story (perhaps at least partly true, perhaps not) in order to get "poorbox" money. Almost every government social assistance program in every country has rules, qualification criteria, means tests, and requests have to be corroborated with doctor's letters or other evidence. It's all part of the paperwork.

Do scammers get away with things? Well, I suppose they do in some cases. Am I going to stop paying taxes? No. Am I going to stop donating to my Church and other charities? No. The money that comes out of my pocket that helps those in genuine need is far important to me than the few that rip people off. But that's just me.

Nov 16th 2012 new

(Quote) Paul-866591 said: Not exactly an accurate characterization of the Post Office organization. It is se...
(Quote) Paul-866591 said:

Not exactly an accurate characterization of the Post Office organization.

It is set up as a Government Corporation.Uncle Sam owns all the stock. All PO employees are Government employees and are part of the Federal Government Pension plans.The people who run it are appointed by the President.

It was set up this way to get the PO off budget. The hope, of course, was that it could operate at a profit. It has not done so since it was set up. Its income has been less than its income. One of the main expenses other than pay was the pension costs which are all dictated by Congress. The income has never been enough for the PO to set aside funds for machine and building updates, etc.

Congress dictates mail delivery 6 days a week. Like most bureaucracies, promotion to management positions has little to do with abilities. Seniority plays the major part. Intelligent postal workers will tell you that working conditions would have Private employer in trouble for abusing employees.

Now mail volume is dropping. Face it, not many people write letters anymore. It is virtually non-competitive in the package delivery business. More and more companies are urging their customers to accept e-mail billing because US Mail is too expensive. Magazine delivery used to be a big part of the POs business. But subscriptions have been dropping dramatically.

Years ago, a busines group I belong to had the local Postmaster as a guest speaker. He went on and on about how they had improved delivery serivce and boasted about the fact that a coast to coast letter was deliverd within 3 days of mailing 90% of the time.

So I asked, what was the standard for a first class letter between Seattle and Chicago. He replied 2 days and that standard was met 90% of the time. So I then asked how come all letters between me and and my parents in Chicago always fell into the 10% category 100% of the time and I opined that it was a statistical impossibility for that to happen. So he asked me how long it took. I told him 4 days 100% of the time. At that he stopped taking questions and concluded his presentation and left.

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Truthfully, Paul, I am not disappointed with the post office. I think they do a good job. Over the years they have tried
all sorts of new ways to expedite mail and packages. I know where I live, if I drop a letter at one post office, it will arrive
in Virginia almost the next day. If I drop a letter in a post office not too far away from the first one, it will be a four day arrival time.

At least I have figured out how to get a letter delivered faster, so I can use the system to my advantage. Where you live,
you may not have that option.

I have found that the postal workers are darn arrogant in some post offices (the second one I described above).
They refuse to wear their badges. They are probably on a work slowdown, especially near closing time. The line
may be out the door, but they go so slowly that people just leave. I have called the head of the laxed post office
and complained, and he was very interested. It is hard to get the individual branch phone number though. The
workers in the laxed branch are the workers with "attitude." They don't want you to ask questions. It is a
power struggle with them because they have that power to help you or not help you and they know it. In NY
we have a lot of places that have workers like that. The subway system has a lot of them. They are in a
service job and that means a job description as helping. If their jobs were not protected by unions, I don't think they
would have them too long. That is completely unfair to the consumer.




Nov 16th 2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: I know...that is why I am getting so "tired". This is the country my son is going to i...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

I know...that is why I am getting so "tired". This is the country my son is going to inheret....my poor baby. How could any parent not be upset.

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Cheryl, many parents have that same fear. That is one of the reasons why we have this backlash against government
ineptness. I can only tell you that the fear is a healthy one, but I would additionally tell you that with your strong faith, you
can put it in God's hands along with your great work in informing people about the deterioration of morals.
He said that as he takes care of the lilies of the fields, he will take care of you and your son.

Nov 16th 2012 new

(Quote) Angela-374523 said: While I cannot speak to how things are in the US or how they should be, as a Catholic, and as so...
(Quote) Angela-374523 said:

While I cannot speak to how things are in the US or how they should be, as a Catholic, and as someone who used to work in the non-profit charitable sector, I'd like to offer a few comments based on my experiences.

There are so many individuals and families in genuine need to various degrees that no single government agency, program, or charity can possibly deal with it all. This is especially the case if illness, death or disability hit the family. Charities and government work together (sometimes in the same office building, sometimes meeting in person or on the phone) to discuss their caseloads and how gaps can be addressed.

People who are trying to scam government social services are often also trying to scam charities. We'd be in contact with officials dispensing government social assistance about Mr. X or Ms. X with a sob story that didn't make sense or that had no corroboration, and wasn't their request covered by the money that they already received, and so on. There are people out there that are so brazen that they will walk up to a priest with a story (perhaps at least partly true, perhaps not) in order to get "poorbox" money. Almost every government social assistance program in every country has rules, qualification criteria, means tests, and requests have to be corroborated with doctor's letters or other evidence. It's all part of the paperwork.

Do scammers get away with things? Well, I suppose they do in some cases. Am I going to stop paying taxes? No. Am I going to stop donating to my Church and other charities? No. The money that comes out of my pocket that helps those in genuine need is far important to me than the few that rip people off. But that's just me.

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Angela: Again, thanks for your helpful input. I wonder if all the agencies in America work together like they do where you
work. You know, I really would bet against it. The system is so big, and there is so much overlap.

One thing I have to say is that illegals or others that work off the books have a leg up on those who are subject to the
income criteria that is the basis for qualifying in a lot of programs. One can loose their whole house because of a heart attack or illness,
but if they made a certain amount of money above the cutoff in the last tax year, they are just out of luck.

First of all, I want to say that I have been to social services to help out my Great Aunt who was 93. She could not get down
the stairs to get to the offices, so I went for her. Secondly I want to say that I was one of the only ones who spoke English
in the waiting area. That was in White Plains, NY. I waited almost 2 hours for my case to be called. And in order for my
great aunt to get any help, she had to give back a few hundred dollars from the pension she received every month for a job
she worked in until she was 84 years old. That was the ILGWU. She only stopped working because the union moved to another
state. She had to live with a sister of hers because she could not even afford the rent here in NY, never mind food or medical
help.

It is very discouraging to have seen this in the waiting area. Actually, it makes me mad. And it was even worse that my aunt
had to rely on family to get her through life at this point of her life. But as I said, it was families that were counted on to help
in the good old days and thank goodness she had family to get her through. Now the family unit is being destroyed and
we have to live with the consequences.

I still don't want to be taxed so much and I don't want to feed another family who is irresponsible and milking the system. I
am just tired of it. I see the consequences and they are only getting worse. "I miss the America I grew up in."

Nov 23rd 2012 new

(Quote) Keith-806420 said: You go Cheryl! I dont see anything hurtful or at all 'untrue' about your posts hear! They seem v...
(Quote) Keith-806420 said: You go Cheryl! I dont see anything hurtful or at all 'untrue' about your posts hear! They seem very thoughtful and Pro gospel (Catholic) !! Im not sure what is going on with this judgdment, but I would not worry about it.. :-) God speed, and God Bless you!!!
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Thank you....yes, it is unfortunate how things on here are twisted by people who should be on the same side of right.

Nov 23rd 2012 new

I should have addressed one more thing from James reply "the govt. takes taxes to fund military that is socialism"...no it is not...the Federal govt. in its original purpose was for our defense...that is what it was supposed to be all about...not take over as it has in every other aspect which private business and ministry should be.


Also, I think if I would let myself go and fall into the "safety net" trap that won't ever end, I'd give up my job search...I have to tell myself that the safety net that goes on forever doesn't exist to avoid falling into discouragement and depression and just give up. I can just imagine with all the jobs being lost now because of Obama and democrats that we will have many people that will give up though and fall into discouragement after trying forever to find employment again.

Nov 24th 2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: GE big, big company (buddies of Obama) paid NO income tax in 2010....how did they do it?
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GE big, big company (buddies of Obama) paid NO income tax in 2010....how did they do it?

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They had big losses that have been carried forward. All legal under the law.

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