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11/23/2012 new

(Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Michael et alia,Michael, God is not dead because of Obama, or Bush, or Nixon, o...
(Quote) James-17080 said:



Hi Michael et alia,

Michael, God is not dead because of Obama, or Bush, or Nixon, or Stalin, or Pol Pot, or any other politician.

James ☺

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Michael,

God is not even tired!

That said, Michael et alia, I would ask if it is not more accurate to say that the practice of Faith is near dead in this country, given this vote and the general acceptance of pagan ideas and books spread by the media? That is the real danger to any society, as France during the Revolution demonstrated.

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11/23/2012 new

(Quote) Michael-556947 said: its people like you who will never learn . do you think it would end with Israel . it will cont...
(Quote) Michael-556947 said:

its people like you who will never learn . do you think it would end with Israel . it will continue to all the people who voted for OBAMA get there wish Armageddon

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Do you not see the obserdity is saying that all the people who voted for Obama wish for Armageddon? In what universe does that logic make sense?

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(Quote) Michael-556947 said: Founding Fathers said it all . The Question is WHO is ignorant?
(Quote) Michael-556947 said:

Founding Fathers said it all . The Question is WHO is ignorant?

QUOTES FROM OUR FOUNDING FATHERS ON GOD AND AMERICA

BY KOOZ - POSTED ON JULY 3RD, 2008 Tagged: Beet Juice Alert John Quincy Adams Religion Technology Thomas Jefferson

"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this - that it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity." - John Quincy Adams
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"The Bible is the cornerstone of liberty. A student's perusal of the sacred volume will make him a better citizen, a better father, a better husband." - Thomas Jefferson
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"The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests." - Andrew Jackson
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"In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government, ought to be instructed." - Noah Webster
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(UC) "We have staked the future of American civilization upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
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(UC) "He who shall introduce into public affairs the principles of primitive Christianity will change the face of the world." - Benjamin Franklin
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(UC) "It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions but on the gospel of Jesus Christ." - Patrick Henry
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"The religion which has introduced civil liberty is the religion of Christ and His apostles...to this we owe our free constitutions of government." - Noah Webster
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"Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed the conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?" - Thomas Jefferson
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"Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almight God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly implore His protection and favor." - George Washington
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"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited.... What a utopia, what a paradise would this region be." - John Adams
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"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams
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Michael, I was referring to the ignorant, fundamentalist Christian Zionists who's behavior and beliefs are most definitely un-Christian. I was NOT referring to us Catholic Christians- there is a big difference. Unlike them, we do not preach hatred. All of Christianity cannot be put in the same box. Like Judaism and Islam, we have our own extremists. I do not need to be lectured on American history.

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11/23/2012 new

(Quote) Clarence-698070 said: Do you not see the obserdity is saying that all the people who voted for Oba...
(Quote) Clarence-698070 said:

Do you not see the obserdity is saying that all the people who voted for Obama wish for Armageddon? In what universe does that logic make sense?

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It makes as much sense as when it is made by a leftist. Some say that support for Israel was in fact agreement with the Dominionists who think that the nation should be supported so they can cause WWIII.

Given that the number of real Dominionists could be counted in one's hand even at their peak, the argument doens't have legs. Neither does this.

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11/23/2012 new

(Quote) Michael-556947 said: God is Dead Because of Obama and alll the Socialist and Liberal democrats who follow this Messi...
(Quote) Michael-556947 said:

God is Dead Because of Obama and alll the Socialist and Liberal democrats who follow this Messiah from a DEMOCRAT . you Choose . www.youtube.com LIberals must now chooose to be with the the Socialist Obama or the moderate to conservative Democrats . our party has been destroyed the nation , Israel , world is next you have to say no more now . The end is close . Or you can keep support OBAMA doom the world your choose .

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Time for you to go to the Fun and Entertainment Fora, because it is time for Christmas Music Michael. Should Armegeddon happen tonight while I sleep, I want to go to bed with a smile on my face and hope for a better future in my heart. Afterall, is not heaven a better future. wink

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11/23/2012 new

(Quote) Peter-449116 said: God may be disappointed, but He's very much alive.
(Quote) Peter-449116 said:

God may be disappointed, but He's very much alive.

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Amen, Peter!!! He is Life -- past, present and future (in our way of understanding, which is limited).

This is a wake up call for all Christians, all believers in God; a challenge to all of us to try harder, be more fervent in our prayer life, and set a good example for others. As Christians, we haven't done enough to make others wonder what we have that "they" don't. Some have discovered this -- as the number of converts on CM will attest to.

We have work to do, and sitting around brooding isn't going ot get the job done. The past is exactly that. We have the present to lead the way.

Yes, Peter, God may be disappointed, but He's very much alive -- and well. Throughout history, we've seen the Good Lord's mercy shown, even though people turned away from him. This is a test for us to do His will.

As for me, I'm not ready to start displaying "The End is Near" signs.

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11/23/2012 new

(Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Michael et alia,Michael, God is not dead because of Obama, or Bush, or Nixon, o...
(Quote) James-17080 said:



Hi Michael et alia,

Michael, God is not dead because of Obama, or Bush, or Nixon, or Stalin, or Pol Pot, or any other politician.

James ☺

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i guess you have not seen the movie the Knights of Columbus sponsored " For Greater Glory" or even " There Be Dragons" history always seems to repeat itself

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11/23/2012 new

(Quote) Peter-449116 said: It is not the end of the world here in America. We must remain optimistic- but we have much work ...
(Quote) Peter-449116 said:

It is not the end of the world here in America. We must remain optimistic- but we have much work to do. Let the Israelis continue to self-destruct on their own, it's not our problem. The sooner we accept that, the better off we'll be.

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God is definitely not dead...though faith is in crisis. That being said...how are the Isrealis self-destructing...they are being attacked because of Obama.....the moslems know we don't have their back....those poor people are trying to survive in the middle of people who hate them and want them dead....haven't they been through enough?

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11/23/2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: God is definitely not dead...though faith is in crisis. That being said...how are the Isrealis s...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

God is definitely not dead...though faith is in crisis. That being said...how are the Isrealis self-destructing...they are being attacked because of Obama.....the moslems know we don't have their back....those poor people are trying to survive in the middle of people who hate them and want them dead....haven't they been through enough?

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Where do I begin? "Those poor people" have been stealing land for many decades for their illegal settlements. They have demolished thousands of Palestinian's homes, bulldozed countless olive and other fruit orchards, destroyed their water sources, denied farmers access to harvest their crops- relentlessly, continuing to this day. Even National Geographic has documented this. I could go on, but Americans are so locked into their beliefs on the subject that it's a hopeless argument. The information is out there for those willing to take the time to learn. Please try.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org

This is a discussion for another time and place, and does not belong in this thread- I will post no more on the subject.

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11/23/2012 new
Even after all this, there is a better path offered to us. Will we listen? Will we step up? Those are the questions. I make no secret that I am among those who were devastated by the outcome of the election. But now I see hope, not in the politicians, no. In Our Lady, specifically as she came in the Church approved apparition Our Lady of America in the 1950s. This was awakened in me by a CM post you may have seen. I spent the last several weeks reading the messages. They inspire true hope for America. So often we close our eyes to these Marian messages because of the warnings that come with them. But what is Our Lady to do for her children if not try to protect us? Focus on her promises: America can be an exemplary nation, a place of hope for the world. This is why I have hope. If we respond as she requests, things can turn. Read this. Act on it. It's actually the most patriotic thing I can imagine doing right now. She came under this title specifically for our nation. May God bless you. www.ourladyofamerica.org
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