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Nov 27th 2012 new

Tom, give me a break. Death Panels? Do any of you read? I have not read about the death panels only from you folks! Do I agree with the president? Not on everything, but he was elected. Get over it, for change to work we must vote for people of similar values. That being said change is very, very slow. I took a poll this weekend among my Catholic friends who bothered to vote and most voted for Obama for various reasons but not on healthcare alone.


All of you must start listening to other journalists, that are more to the moderate. What would this country be like if the person you wanted elected would be like? Let me tell you, nothing would change. I didn't choose socialism and almost everyone on here didn't either.

Nov 27th 2012 new

(Quote) Mary-814080 said: my Catholic friends ...voted for Obama for various reasons but not on healthcare alone...I didn...
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my Catholic friends ...voted for Obama for various reasons but not on healthcare alone...I didn't choose socialism and almost everyone on here didn't either.

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I have not discussed Socialism, only the culture of death, which you are willing to compromise on for the sake of "change."

You can have the death panels argument for now. But as a Catholic, Mary, you lose when you support the biggest baby killer this country has known. That, I won't get over. When will you kindly change your name?

Nov 27th 2012 new

(Quote) Patricia-29176 said: (Quote) James-17080 said: Michael, America didn't choose soc...
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Michael, America didn't choose socialism. They chose a center-right Democrat.

James ☺




Obama - a center-right Democrat I don't think so - not even sure he can be called a far-left Democrat. I think in all truthfulness he would really like to be a socialist/communist (as his early mentors and training clearly indicate), but knows he needs to hide his true proclivities in order to attain what he can (in those directions) while president.

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My dear Patricia, perhaps you would like to share with us your evidence that Obama is a communist.

James ☺

Nov 27th 2012 new
(Quote) Tom-919560 said: (Quote) Mary-814080 said: my Catholic friends ...voted for Obama for various reaso...
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my Catholic friends ...voted for Obama for various reasons but not on healthcare alone...I didn't choose socialism and almost everyone on here didn't either.




I have not discussed Socialism, only the culture of death, which you are willing to compromise on for the sake of "change."



You can have the death panels argument for now. But as a Catholic, Mary, you lose when you support the biggest baby killer this country has known. That, I won't get over. When will you kindly change your name?

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Dr. David Janda explains the rationing board in ObamaCare -- which was hidden in the Stimulus Bill.

www.youtube.com
Nov 27th 2012 new

(Quote) Tom-919560 said: Listened to NPR two days after the election. I had no choice due to poor reception. "Democracy...
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Listened to NPR two days after the election. I had no choice due to poor reception. "Democracy Now" host and a guest believed Obama was right of center, and they attacked him for not being progressive enough. I guess it all depends which lens one looks through.

Looking through the lens of the Church was very clear at one time. Unfortunately, not anymore. Many semanaries are openly working against longstanding Church teaching. I do believe some people have become Catholic, not because they love the unvarnished truth re: faith and morals, but to erode Church teaching on faith and morals in order to bring about social change. That's activism. I wish they'd get a life and join a church or organization that they subscribe to, rather than to become Catholic as agents of infiltration.

Some are here among us.

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Care to name names?

James ☺

Nov 27th 2012 new

(Quote) Ron-481546 said: (Quote) Tom-919560 said: Listened to NPR two days after the election. I had ...
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Listened to NPR two days after the election. I had no choice due to poor reception. "Democracy Now" host and a guest believed Obama was right of center, and they attacked him for not being progressive enough. I guess it all depends which lens one looks through.

Looking through the lens of the Church was very clear at one time. Unfortunately, not anymore. Many semanaries are openly working against longstanding Church teaching. I do believe some people have become Catholic, not because they love the unvarnished truth re: faith and morals, but to erode Church teaching on faith and morals in order to bring about social change. That's activism. I wish they'd get a life and join a church or organization that they subscribe to, rather than to become Catholic as agents of infiltration.

Some are here among us.



I do believe there is an agenda that has been around for over 50 years, probably over 100 to destroy our free society as we know it. Part of the plan is to infiltrate the Catholic Church and destroy it from within. You see evidence of this with the Bus nuns, pedophilia priests etc. I saw a slogan the other day which read "Catholic Church: Outlasting Oppressive Governments since 33 A.D." To do this though, we the faithful must stand on our principals, fight the good fight and never give up. Check this out. Many of the goals have been achieved already vimeo.com

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Please give us an explanation of this "agenda" which has been working for over 100 years to destroy our free society.

James ☺

Nov 28th 2012 new

(Quote) Mary-486033 said: (Quote) Tom-919560 said: (Quote) Mary-814080 said: ...
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my Catholic friends ...voted for Obama for various reasons but not on healthcare alone...I didn't choose socialism and almost everyone on here didn't either.




I have not discussed Socialism, only the culture of death, which you are willing to compromise on for the sake of "change."



You can have the death panels argument for now. But as a Catholic, Mary, you lose when you support the biggest baby killer this country has known. That, I won't get over. When will you kindly change your name?


Dr. David Janda explains the rationing board in ObamaCare -- which was hidden in the Stimulus Bill.

www.youtube.com
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Hi Mary et alia,

We had discussions about these silly government "death panels" back in 2009 and 2010, back when some bird from Iowa mentioned them, and the irresistible Sarah Palin, my favourite, started bantering the phrase around. Honestly, at one point, the discussion here degenerated into whether Palin said death panels or "death panels". Like it made any difference.

But these exposers of death panels were on to something, I want everyone here to watch a couple of videos:

www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com

Death Panels, eh? Let's talk about them. Let's talk about the death panels insurance companies set up to deny claims for the sole purpose of making money for its stockholders.

Death for profit. I'm sure none of us realize this, but there are more than a few wizards who are in favor of this scheme. And I would like to know how this fits in with Catholic Theology... or the theology of any other major religion.

Here's another question: What do you think God will say to you when it is your time to go?

James ☺

Nov 28th 2012 new

(Quote) Paul-866591 said: (Quote) James-17080 said:Michael, America didn't choose socialism. They ch...
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Michael, America didn't choose socialism. They chose a center-right Democrat.

James ☺


Ah! A fine example of the triumph of wishful thinking over reality.

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You have it backwards, Paul. And before you say "No I don't", yes you do.

James ☺

Nov 28th 2012 new
(Quote) Patricia-29176 said: Obama - a center-right Democrat I don't think so - not even sure he can be called a far-lef...
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Obama - a center-right Democrat I don't think so - not even sure he can be called a far-left Democrat. I think in all truthfulness he would really like to be a socialist/communist (as his early mentors and training clearly indicate), but knows he needs to hide his true proclivities in order to attain what he can (in those directions) while president.

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Pravda - the political newspaper of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation states Obama is a communist.

"He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama's fools and Stalin's fools share the same drink of illusion."

"President Vladimir Putin could never have imagined anyone so ignorant or so willing to destroy their people like Obama much less seeing millions vote for someone like Obama. They read history in America don't they? Alas, the schools in the U.S. were conquered by the Communists long ago and history was revised thus paving the way for their Communist presidents."

They give Americans the benefit of doubt and state that Obama could have been "re-elected" due to voter fraud (vs. ignorance and stupidity).

english.pravda.ru
Nov 28th 2012 new

(Quote) Mary-486033 said: (Quote) Patricia-29176 said: Obama - a center-right Democrat I don't t...
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Obama - a center-right Democrat I don't think so - not even sure he can be called a far-left Democrat. I think in all truthfulness he would really like to be a socialist/communist (as his early mentors and training clearly indicate), but knows he needs to hide his true proclivities in order to attain what he can (in those directions) while president.


Pravda - the political newspaper of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation states Obama is a communist.

"He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama's fools and Stalin's fools share the same drink of illusion."

"President Vladimir Putin could never have imagined anyone so ignorant or so willing to destroy their people like Obama much less seeing millions vote for someone like Obama. They read history in America don't they? Alas, the schools in the U.S. were conquered by the Communists long ago and history was revised thus paving the way for their Communist presidents."

They give Americans the benefit of doubt and state that Obama could have been "re-elected" due to voter fraud (vs. ignorance and stupidity).

english.pravda.ru
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That's nice. But who on Earth is Xavier Lerma? And what does he do besides write blogs?

James ☺

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