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11/27/2012 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: I think they had a deal made behind closed doors....she is probably covering for him and he is g...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

I think they had a deal made behind closed doors....she is probably covering for him and he is giving her the job. As far as Kerry....nothing would be more detrimental to our men or disgusting in general. I'm sure people have forgotten from the last election about his history...and I guess the young men serving wouldn't know any better as they are the 18 year old graduates who are mostly liberal anyway and clueless....my nephew is one of them...I was working on talking him out of going in. Any mom, aunt, or grandma that lets her kid serve now without trying to stop him is crazy.....why have them go over there and die because someone who has NO business being the commander in chief to begin with cares more about politics than about them and will abandon them and let them die at a moments notice....not my family.

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Kerry's appointment to Sec. of Defense would be an egregious slap at all those serving and all vets, especially those who were really wounded.

But what the hay, the military already despises the Boss, so committing this odious act will only confirm what they already feel.

11/29/2012 new

(Quote) Paul-866591 said: Kerry's appointment to Sec. of Defense would be an egregious slap at all those servin...
(Quote) Paul-866591 said:

Kerry's appointment to Sec. of Defense would be an egregious slap at all those serving and all vets, especially those who were really wounded.

But what the hay, the military already despises the Boss, so committing this odious act will only confirm what they already feel.

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I've said it before, and now you have it in more mainstream media. The U.S. government, through the CIA, are using the very same people who our soldier fought against in Iraq to accomplish régime change in Libya, and they were being recruited as foreign fighters in Syria.

There was a CIA mission in Benghazi, and the mission and the Consulate were the point of contact between the US and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, a rebel faction tied to Al Qaeda. This group was the one supported in their bid to overthrow Gaddafi in 2011, and this region is one of the main contributors of foreign fighters for the rebel groups in Syria. The later is important because of the documented religous cleansing against Christians in that country.

www.wnd.com

And the story from Washington's Blog on this nearly a month ago.

www.washingtonsblog.com

workerscompass.org

www.csmonitor.com

11/29/2012 new

(Quote) Steven-706921 said: I've said it before, and now you have it in more mainstream media. The U.S. governm...
(Quote) Steven-706921 said:

I've said it before, and now you have it in more mainstream media. The U.S. government, through the CIA, are using the very same people who our soldier fought against in Iraq to accomplish régime change in Libya, and they were being recruited as foreign fighters in Syria.

There was a CIA mission in Benghazi, and the mission and the Consulate were the point of contact between the US and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, a rebel faction tied to Al Qaeda. This group was the one supported in their bid to overthrow Gaddafi in 2011, and this region is one of the main contributors of foreign fighters for the rebel groups in Syria. The later is important because of the documented religous cleansing against Christians in that country.

www.wnd.com

And the story from Washington's Blog on this nearly a month ago.

www.washingtonsblog.com

workerscompass.org

www.csmonitor.com

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Again, more vague assertions.

Given the standard of "proof" you are willing to use in this case, anybody can be accused of anything.

Watch the NFL on TV? Why you support dog fighting (Michael Vick)- after all, all you need is an ill defined "connection" to be guilty.

You went to high school in San Francisco? Why you must support a radical gay agenda (SF is home to many known gay activists)- after all, all you need is an ill defined "connection" to be guilty.

You filled your gas tank at a Citgo station? Why you must be an anti-American socialist (Citgo is owned by Venezuela)- after all, all you need is an ill defined "connection" to be guilty.

Etc. Etc.

11/29/2012 new

(Quote) John-336509 said: Again, more vague assertions. Given the standard of "proof" you are will...
(Quote) John-336509 said:

Again, more vague assertions.

Given the standard of "proof" you are willing to use in this case, anybody can be accused of anything.

Watch the NFL on TV? Why you support dog fighting (Michael Vick)- after all, all you need is an ill defined "connection" to be guilty.

You went to high school in San Francisco? Why you must support a radical gay agenda (SF is home to many known gay activists)- after all, all you need is an ill defined "connection" to be guilty.

You filled your gas tank at a Citgo station? Why you must be an anti-American socialist (Citgo is owned by Venezuela)- after all, all you need is an ill defined "connection" to be guilty.

Etc. Etc.

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What is your standard of evidence, John? Facts and actual journalism?

Nothing like my posting to bring you out of the woodwork, eh?

11/29/2012 new

(Quote) Steven-706921 said: What is your standard of evidence, John? Facts and actual journalism? Nothing li...
(Quote) Steven-706921 said:

What is your standard of evidence, John? Facts and actual journalism?

Nothing like my posting to bring you out of the woodwork, eh?

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I crawled out of the woodwork a couple of days ago in another thread.

Facts and "actual jornalism" (whatever THAT means) are pieces of evidence, not a standard.

If you want to demonstrate that the revolutions in Libya or Syria are al-Quida (or whoever) run, then you need to show that al-Queda is actually running the show, not contributing some unspecified number of grunts on the ground.

11/30/2012 new

(Quote) Steven-706921 said: What is your standard of evidence, John? Facts and actual journalism? Nothing li...
(Quote) Steven-706921 said:

What is your standard of evidence, John? Facts and actual journalism?

Nothing like my posting to bring you out of the woodwork, eh?

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Some people never will accept what really goes on. To them it's always simply the good guys vs. bad guys: US vs. Commies, Allies vs. Axis, US/West vs. Islamofascists, etc.

12/01/2012 new

(Quote) Sean-851370 said: Some people never will accept what really goes on. To them it's always simply ...
(Quote) Sean-851370 said:





Some people never will accept what really goes on. To them it's always simply the good guys vs. bad guys: US vs. Commies, Allies vs. Axis, US/West vs. Islamofascists, etc.

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I would tend to agree. Some people see only what they want to see.

I've given article after article connecting the dots here, from the station in Benghazi to the fact that this was the jumping off point for a major portion of the foreign fighters our troops fought against in Iraq. The data on that last bit was from a report prepared by West Point staff.

www.scribd.com

12/01/2012 new

(Quote) Steven-706921 said: I would tend to agree. Some people see only what they want to see. I've give...
(Quote) Steven-706921 said:

I would tend to agree. Some people see only what they want to see.

I've given article after article connecting the dots here, from the station in Benghazi to the fact that this was the jumping off point for a major portion of the foreign fighters our troops fought against in Iraq. The data on that last bit was from a report prepared by West Point staff.

www.scribd.com

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You've given article after article proclaiming the fact that there are militant Jihadists throughout the Middle East, a fact that nobody is disputing. You then choose to cherry pick certain dots to draw a picture that every shot being fired by a non-Western gun is done so at the behest of al-Quida.

12/01/2012 new

(Quote) John-336509 said: You've given article after article proclaiming the fact that there are militant Jihad...
(Quote) John-336509 said:

You've given article after article proclaiming the fact that there are militant Jihadists throughout the Middle East, a fact that nobody is disputing. You then choose to cherry pick certain dots to draw a picture that every shot being fired by a non-Western gun is done so at the behest of al-Quida.

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If that's what you got from what I gave you, you missed the point entirely.

12/01/2012 new

(Quote) Steven-706921 said: If that's what you got from what I gave you, you missed the point entirely.
(Quote) Steven-706921 said:

If that's what you got from what I gave you, you missed the point entirely.

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As far as I can tell, you're point is that you want to support, or at least not help overthrow, anybody who claims to be anti-Jihadist. Even the slightest hint of ANY Islamic militants in any revolution results in you declaring the whole revolution to be a front for al-Quida & Co.

If I'm wrong, please point out where.

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