Discussion related to living as a Catholic in the single state of life. As long as a topic is being discussed from the perspective of a single Catholic then it will be on-topic.
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I hope they don't feel this way. God made man and woman as 2 parts of a whole, so we both need each other. There are many things that I personally can think of that I need a man for. The way mens' brains are wired are completely different from ours. I need their clear, logical, rational thinking to help me stay on the right path. We, as women, think more with our hearts (emotions) and men think with their heads. This is why alot of us seek out a man's perspective on things that we're unsure about. We need their companionship, emotional support, advice, and physical capabilities. And when we have their love, then we have everything we need. The man doesn't have to be the provider, God will be the provider. Yes, guys, whether they want to admit it or not.....we need your hole-digging, ceiling-fixing, spider-killing, furniture-moving, lawn-mowing, roof-climbing, sweeper-fixing, car-repairing, oil-changing, hedge-cutting selves alot more than you need us!!!
It seems like women don't need us, but they want to have us in their life to complete their life. I'm at the point in my life where I don't care. I just love people, I'm honest and try to be giving. I let the cards fall in place.
I'm trying to figure out where God wants me to go. I think it is nice when someone sees a specific value in you. Not just a guy that can fix things, but someone who adds a lot of other things to the relatiionship. I think sometimes guys feel like they're just a paycheck machine.
I don't want any more history lessons. I treat everyone equally. The keys are love and respect. And many times respect is more important to a man than love.
Bob, if I found a woman to be sexually "loose", I'd certainly have great concerns about her potential as a marriage partner. Sleeping around while married is not the exclusive domain of married men. :-) The ladies do it quite a bit, too, from what I've read.
Well, I'm guessing these guys are sleeping with women, so yeah....
Having come from a marriage where I was unappreciated... my perspective on this is perhaps a bit colored already. It is important for a man to feel respected, and to feel like what he brings to the table is appreciated in the context of a family situation. A man does not want a spouse who he has to compete with at home. Men want love and support from spouses. Men want to be allowed to be dads for our children, and to use our manly parenting characteristics to father our children. We don't have to have the same approach as our wives, and should be respected for the parenting skills and techniques we bring to the table. And... we want Peace in our homes.
It seems like today, women want to compete with men in everything. There is no safety for men at home if their spouse isn't feminine and caring. I didn't say submissive. Nothing is a bigger turnoff than a woman who offers a man no shelter or support when he asks for it, or who doesn't bring a feminine and caring touch to the home environment. I think women these days have largely lost that ability. I have seen it rarely when visiting homes of Catholic friends, and it is simply amazing to see when I've found it. Marriages with such support tend to seem quite strong... (though I've seen one that crumbled due to issues the husband had with narcissism...)
And society indeed makes it difficult to find women to marry these days. I work rotating shifts in a small office... how to find women? I can't participate in many outside events where singles gather, on a routine basis. Sex is available whenever a man wants it, though I'd think sex in marriage is a lot better and more fulfilling than outside of marriage. Not to mention safer. Another issue is the "family court" system and the abuse it perpetrates on men (and our children) in many states. There is a HUGE disincentive to marry when there is a 93% chance you'll lose your children if there is a divorce, as well as much of what you've worked hard to build, financially, for many years. While we want to see our marriages succeed, there ARE some women out there who marry... with no intention from the outset of making it a lifelong commitment. It can be difficult sometimes to be a good judge of character...some of us guys make mistakes when choosing to marry (young).
Just seems like, at least in my generation, women have forgotten how to be women. Not really interested in marrying a woman who wants to be a man.
You definitely bring up some good points...
These days, women can be breadwinners. Women can buy homes on their own. Women can get pregnant through fertility treatments (a former classmate from Catholic school choose to do this earlier this year - a vow that she'd become a mother by 30 even if she didn't have a man). Women can choose to be single mothers through adoption. And, without sounding crass or offensive, women can find sexual gratification through "battery-operated devices".
So, yeah, I can see where men can feel threatened and useless, and I think this is really sad.
Academic feminism is nothing more than a socialist tactic dressed up as a civil rights agenda. Politically, the left wants women on their side and they use feminism as a political organizing tactic to gain support. The side effect of radical feminism is also a desired effect by the socialist agenda. We already have rich vs poor, black vs white, worker vs non-worker, and now with radical feminism we have man vs woman. These are all manufactured conflicts that don't actually exist or exist only because the left has created them. The left has convinced our society that they all exist and so now everyone believes they are part of one or multiple struggles which creates conflict among the masses. With this conflict, the goal is to break down the civil society, destroy the traditional family, and to ultimately get rid of Christianity and substitute it with a group of political elites. As a Marxist would say, conflict among society serves to evolve man into what they believe is a more perfect state. Radical feminism is 100% political but as a side effect it has social consequences for all of us and those consequences include the destruction of our roles within marriage and the relationship between male and female in general.
Overall, yes. But there is a lot of factors that broke down relationships between men and women. One is the promotion of pre-marital sex back in the early sixties. Two..the feminist propaganda which turned women into competitors as opposed to partners (two as one ideal) and then it is excessive drinking, drugs.. the music we listen to (or had) in night clubs etc..
The feminist movement gave us all a lot of lies, it was designed to make slaves out of us. It's not a good situation for families. I suggest turning our backs against the system and going back to pre 1960 norms which was much better than what we created for ourselves in this day and age.
The counter culture movement and feminism was created to destroy our families. Women are getting burnt out working long hours and are in perpetual debt from school loans. Men are working longer hours with shift changes creating more isolation. We don't need women just to have children and do household chores and women don't need men for just a roof over their heads, it's really about bonding and leaving offspring.