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Dec 29th 2012 new

(Quote) Casey-637092 said: Hi kathleen, My contribution to your thread would be to say, that if you ...
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Hi kathleen,

My contribution to your thread would be to say, that if you want a guy to really be all in ,when dating you , be grateful and vocal when he does nice things for you . Tell him you appreciate his kindness and show him so, with the occasional spontaneous hug, or by giving him a quick peck on his cheek . Don,t be afraid to take his hand when going for a walk.

Letting him know you feel safe , protected and considered is about the best thing you could ever tell him . Also , telling him . (only after you do of course) that you trust his judgement and believe in his abilities , both at work and in his personal life . This will send him a clear message that you enjoy his company and you like the feeling, you only get , when your with him .

Without a doubt he will sense , in a good way , that you don't need him for what he does for you,( although appreciated) but more for how he is able to be, all you hoped for in a guy , because of the trust and faith you have in him . Send a guy this message on a consistant basis , and he will love and adore you for the rest of your life .

blessings ,

Casey

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Thank you Casey, I appreciate your words of wisdom wink Really you give some good practical advice. I guess women should be more vocal about words of appreciation, I guess there can never be enought THANK You's or I appreciate you.

When it comes to hand holding and hugging I guess I am more reserved. I like when a man will take my hand. But I do believe in hugs and am usually open to them. Just when and how is the question.

Good thougths for us to take to heart.

Thanks again. Praying hug Kathleen

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Dec 29th 2012 new

(Quote) Kathleen-5781 said: Thank you Casey, I appreciate your words of wisdom Really you give some good practic...
(Quote) Kathleen-5781 said:




Thank you Casey, I appreciate your words of wisdom Really you give some good practical advice. I guess women should be more vocal about words of appreciation, I guess there can never be enought THANK You's or I appreciate you.

When it comes to hand holding and hugging I guess I am more reserved. I like when a man will take my hand. But I do believe in hugs and am usually open to them. Just when and how is the question.

Good thougths for us to take to heart.

Thanks again. Kathleen

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Kathleen, another thought: Love Languages. Know your guy's (and he had better know yours!) It is critical to speak to your spouse/date in his or her own special language when trying to show appreciation. The Five love languages: words of affirmation (one of mine), acts of service, receiving gifts, quality time, and physical touch (another of mine!)

Pretty cool stuff, and we are blessed to have authors such as Dr. Gary Chapman who research and publish such handy books as The Five Love Languages.

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Dec 29th 2012 new

(Quote) Michael-780154 said: Kathleen, another thought: Love Languages. Know your guy's (and he had better know yours!) ...
(Quote) Michael-780154 said:

Kathleen, another thought: Love Languages. Know your guy's (and he had better know yours!) It is critical to speak to your spouse/date in his or her own special language when trying to show appreciation. The Five love languages: words of affirmation (one of mine), acts of service, receiving gifts, quality time, and physical touch (another of mine!)

Pretty cool stuff, and we are blessed to have authors such as Dr. Gary Chapman who research and publish such handy books as The Five Love Languages.

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I found that book very valuable. It helped put a label on why I felt really bad at certain times--it was because someone was not speaking my love language.

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Dec 29th 2012 new

AMEN clap clap highfive Bow Bow

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Dec 29th 2012 new
(Quote) Patrick-235584 said: and here's the situation,.. I guess men, well most men, are a little old fashioned I think, ...
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and here's the situation,.. I guess men, well most men, are a little old fashioned I think, and a woman buying her own house...

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Patrick, the fact that women are equal to men in society and should remain equal to men in society has nothing to do with our roles within loving relationships and in marriage. I don't know where you get the idea that in order for men to be useful we have to be the providers of material. God didn't create women to desire a man purely because he can provide shelter or any other material need. Obviously he created woman to provide for their own material needs. There is a spiritual desire that we have for each other as men and women that brings us together. You are promoting the man vs woman struggle and playing for the male football team. We are not groups of men and woman playing against each other on football teams. We are individuals.
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Dec 29th 2012 new

It does not change what we believe where I am from and talked about. Female or male, loose or experienced to me is all the same.

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Dec 29th 2012 new

(Quote) Ryan-900446 said: Patrick, the fact that women are equal to men in society and should remain equal to men in societ...
(Quote) Ryan-900446 said:

Patrick, the fact that women are equal to men in society and should remain equal to men in society has nothing to do with our roles within loving relationships and in marriage. I don't know where you get the idea that in order for men to be useful we have to be the providers of material. God didn't create women to desire a man purely because he can provide shelter or any other material need. Obviously he created woman to provide for their own material needs. There is a spiritual desire that we have for each other as men and women that brings us together. You are promoting the man vs woman struggle and playing for the male football team. We are not groups of men and woman playing against each other on football teams. We are individuals.
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Ryan, you're a VERY wise young man. clap Bow

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Dec 30th 2012 new
(Quote) Josephine-586127 said: Clair, A feminist is a supporter of the rights and equality for women, politically, ec...
(Quote) Josephine-586127 said:

Clair,



A feminist is a supporter of the rights and equality for women, politically, economically and socially. It is not about power and forcing her will on others.
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Josephine,

With all do respect and with a humble heart. The modern day feminist movement is branded by the left and it has nothing to do with equal rights within society. It is nothing more than a political organizing tactic to group women up and direct them towards the path of socialism. At the same time comes social consequences that are desired by the left to destroy the relationship between men and women within loving relationships. There was a case for an equal rights movement in the US at one time but there is no such need in our society today. Any sentiment that still exists to make women feel as if they are being stomped on is purely for political gain.

I think you are taking your second paragraph way too far. You are grouping men up into a football team against women. This is exactly what the modern day feminist movement wants you to do. They want us to group each other up and point fingers at each other because it creates conflict and conflict is what they believe advances society.

Starting with your third paragraph, you start playing for the female football team. You are referring to a condition in society that has since eroded and you are wanting the other football team to accept their portion of the blame for it. What portion of the blame for the feminist movement am I guilty of? Ever since sin was introduced into the world the desire for conflict between men and women has existed among the forces of evil and so the modern day feminist movement was inevitable. Todays feminist movement is completely unrelated to how the feminist movement started out and has an entirely different purpose. Slowly over the years it was taken over by the left and turned into a political organizing scheme against the civil society.

In your fourth paragraph you continue to direct your opinion against men as if men are an opposing football team. I know there are some men out there that use the bible quotes you speak of to promote their belief that they should be able to dominate and control their wife against their will but I know that is not the case among Christian men in general. Basically it doesn't get any simpler than this, a marriage should reflect the relationship between Christ and the church. That means men are to love their wives as Jesus loved the church (his people) but woman are to submit to their husbands as we (the church) submit to Jesus.

I ended my last paragraph speaking of marriage but how is it that we merge the issue of inequality in society with our roles as husband and wife in marriage? We merge them because that is what the feminist movement wants us to do in order to destroy God's plan of order within marriage. In reality they are two separate subjects. On a day to day basis I see no mistreatment of women by men in general within our society so it seems you are promoting a condition within society that doesn't exist and you merge that nonexistent condition in with marriage. If there are individual cases that support your opinion then by all means speak of them but the way you worded this speaks of a football game that the feminist movement itself actively promotes. I am not playing for any football team. I believe there are common issues among younger women and younger men from my own perspective as a young man but I never prejudge anyone and treat others as individuals.
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Dec 30th 2012 new

(Quote) Patrick-235584 said: well then it's just me,. and I feel pretty stupid now.
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well then it's just me,. and I feel pretty stupid now.

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I think that your earlier points have merit. I think that most men and women want to feel that they contribute in a big way to a family. In the past, a married man (obviously with exceptions) contributed the bulk of material support to his wife and family. If in this century a man meets a woman who has already contributed all of the material support that she needs, his traditional contribution is not needed and the feeling of purpose and worthwhileness that goes with it is also gone. This does not necessarily mean that he will not respect the woman for her efforts, just that a large part of his traditional purpose in a marriage is no longer available. If in this century a man meets a woman who has already contributed all of the material support that she needs to a degree that is better than he could ever do, this situation is all the more accentuated. There may be some lazy or driveless men who could enjoy a marriage where they contributed little more than companionship and ceiling, light-bulb replacements, but most men have a healthy pride that cannot be comfortable with that scenario.

Refusing to just screw in a woman's bulbs no matter watt, eyebrow cool

John

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Dec 30th 2012 new

(Quote) Carolyn-896104 said: It does not change what we believe where I am from and talked about. Female or male, loose or e...
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It does not change what we believe where I am from and talked about. Female or male, loose or experienced to me is all the same.

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In your eyes.

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