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Something I posted on Facebook led to a "conversation" about abortion with an acquaintance of mine. It has left me extremely disheartened. I try to have discussions about things without getting too "in your face" about it, and I always try to back up my opinions with facts. Also, I like to ask questions to get the other person to really think about their opinions. Well, those things made no difference yesterday! Some of the things that were said that made me feel so hopeless and heartbroken were:
"It's embarrassing that anyone finds abortion to be a 'national tragedy'"
"I'm sorry that you don't like abortion, and the he doesn't like abortion, but at the end of the day, it's not your concern what other people do." - this argument drives me CRAZY!
I said, "by day 22, the heart is beating with the child's own blood" and "By week 12, the baby can experience pain" and the response was: "I'd like to remind you that at week 12 it is not a baby - it's still legally defined as a fetus." (Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess)
"All I have to say is, you believe what you want - but don't take away some other woman's opportunity." - abortion = woman's opportunity!?
"abortion is actually helping society." - this one KILLED me!!!! I'm sure you are wondering her reasoning, and of course, I asked her to explain: "Many women who get abortions are in low income brackets - they may have drug and alcohol problems, health concerns, or their spouse may have those problems. These are the same income levels that produce the majority of crime. When these women have children they're not ready for, these children grow up in unstable homes. Many have one parent, drug and alcohol problems by 13, access to guns and gangs, and are abused or see abuse. These are the kids that join gangs. As macabre as it sounds, abortion seems to be contributing to the decreasing crime rate in the US because less kids are being born into these environments."
I could really put more up here...this wasn't the end of it. I'm not even sure why I'm posting all of this. Maybe for support...maybe for more factual information that might help me talk to people like this....maybe just to ask you to never stop praying for an end to abortion....
Spiritual battle...prayer and fasting to turn these hardened hearts. Try not to get discouraged because God calls us to not be successful but to be faithful...Mother Theresa said. I know of the disappointments and battles due to being involved with pro-life, too, in CT. I pray that the outrage of the children and adults who were slain in Newtown, CT reveal the horror at losing precious life at all stages of life in people's hearts.
I found myself is the same situation last year. It was disheartening and hurt like crazy. Once the converation came to an end I ask God to turn every tear I cried into a prayer to end abortion. I had to remind myself that at least the children are safe in God's arms and not in the arms of someone who doesn't respect life, especially its earliest stages.
Somebody here on CM has an image of a poster in their profile that states (I'm paraphrasing from memory) "If a single molecule of life were discovered anywhere else but on earth, it would be heralded by the scientific community as not only proof of life, but also as the greatest discovery in the history of mankind. But here on earth, a 12 week old fetus with a heart, lungs, brain, and a central nervous center is not considered to be alive."
The great conumdrum. We become so used to God's miracles that we no longer stand in awe of His creations. Familiarity without appreciation can breed indifference, boredom, and arrogance to that which we should never cease in our wonder. It's why our Lord admonishes us to be like "little children" to enter upon His kingdom.