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Maybe this topic has been covered in the forums. I recently read that the Church approves of Viagra as a means to increase being open to procreation.

My questions:

-Why is this so? I was wondering why as in vitro fertilization is an artificial means of procreation and Viagra seems to be too.

-What about the wife who is beyond childbearing years or is infertile? Viagra wouldn't increase procreation for these couples.

01/20/2013 new

The simple answer is, Viagra doesn't actually alter the biology of the bodies of either the man or woman, it's just a stimulant. It doesn't change the tool or how it works, it stimulates the physical components necessary for it to work. Basically, it's like drinking espresso over coffee in the morning... you get that extra boost without changing the fact that you're still drinking coffee.


Viagra will have no effect on a woman's ability to bear children who is already unable, for any reason. However, that's not to say that she'll be completely unhappy either. Some wives enjoy having the Energizere Bunny for a husband! mischievous


theheart

01/20/2013 new

(Quote) Victor-544727 said: The simple answer is, Viagra doesn't actually alter the biology of the bodies of either the ...
(Quote) Victor-544727 said:

The simple answer is, Viagra doesn't actually alter the biology of the bodies of either the man or woman, it's just a stimulant. It doesn't change the tool or how it works, it stimulates the physical components necessary for it to work. Basically, it's like drinking espresso over coffee in the morning... you get that extra boost without changing the fact that you're still drinking coffee.


Viagra will have no effect on a woman's ability to bear children who is already unable, for any reason. However, that's not to say that she'll be completely unhappy either. Some wives enjoy having the Energizere Bunny for a husband!

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To simplify... Viagra is taken by men, not women (to this point). If either are unable to conceive due to biological factors (infertility, sterility, etc.) Viagra will not alter that. A sterile man will not become virile because he takes Viagra. He may become He-Man in the sack, but it won't change the mayonnaise on the sandwich.


And because Viagra does not impact or interfere with the natural biological cycle of the body, and provides no artificial barrier to contraception, the Vatican has deemed Viagra an appropriate method to aid in procreation.


Capisce??? tongue


theheart

01/20/2013 new

(Quote) Sandra-871852 said: Maybe this topic has been covered in the forums. I recently read that the Church approves of Via...
(Quote) Sandra-871852 said:

Maybe this topic has been covered in the forums. I recently read that the Church approves of Viagra as a means to increase being open to procreation.

My questions:

-Why is this so? I was wondering why as in vitro fertilization is an artificial means of procreation and Viagra seems to be too.

-What about the wife who is beyond childbearing years or is infertile? Viagra wouldn't increase procreation for these couples.

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In vitro fertilization usually involves the destruction of fertilized eggs, as all treatments are not successful. There is also the Church's stance that children be conceived in the normal, traditional way -- not in a Petri dish.

Viagara is a stimulant which will help a coule perform the marital act; IVF isn't in this category. There's also the issue of how the male sperm was obtained. It's an end versus the means situation.

01/20/2013 new

(Quote) Victor-544727 said: To simplify... Viagra is taken by men, not women (to this point). If either are una...
(Quote) Victor-544727 said:


To simplify... Viagra is taken by men, not women (to this point). If either are unable to conceive due to biological factors (infertility, sterility, etc.) Viagra will not alter that. A sterile man will not become virile because he takes Viagra. He may become He-Man in the sack, but it won't change the mayonnaise on the sandwich.


And because Viagra does not impact or interfere with the natural biological cycle of the body, and provides no artificial barrier to contraception, the Vatican has deemed Viagra an appropriate method to aid in procreation.


Capisce???



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Capisce! Victor, Thanks for the clear explanations. It now makes sense to me.

01/20/2013 new

(Quote) Ray-566531 said: In vitro fertilization usually involves the destruction of fertilized eggs, as all treatments are n...
(Quote) Ray-566531 said:

In vitro fertilization usually involves the destruction of fertilized eggs, as all treatments are not successful. There is also the Church's stance that children be conceived in the normal, traditional way -- not in a Petri dish.

Viagara is a stimulant which will help a coule perform the marital act; IVF isn't in this category. There's also the issue of how the male sperm was obtained. It's an end versus the means situation.

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Ray, Thanks for the distinction between the two. Now it makes sense.

01/28/2013 new

IVF is also immoral as it involves the mortal sin of masturbation. There are alternative ways of collection but they are'n't as effective and most clinics don't have the ability to offer that solution.

Women are also able to take drugs that increase ovulation in the hope that multiple ovums are released.

02/06/2013 new

I have never heard the Church approve of the use of viagra ! Where did you hear/read this? I'm having a hard time believing that the Church approves.

02/06/2013 new

(Quote) Sandra-871852 said: Maybe this topic has been covered in the forums. I recently read that the Church approves of Via...
(Quote) Sandra-871852 said:

Maybe this topic has been covered in the forums. I recently read that the Church approves of Viagra as a means to increase being open to procreation.

My questions:

-Why is this so? I was wondering why as in vitro fertilization is an artificial means of procreation and Viagra seems to be too.

-What about the wife who is beyond childbearing years or is infertile? Viagra wouldn't increase procreation for these couples.

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The use of viagra allows the natural act of procreation to occur.


Sexual intimacy is not just for procreation. It deepens a couple's love for each other. It is also the closest reflection of Christ's love for each human soul. Married couples can and should continue to express their love in a physical self-giving way even if the woman is no longer able to conceive. Sex is not dirty. it is not for utilitarian purposes only. properly expressed within marriage it is a path to holiness and to a stronger marriage.

02/06/2013 new

(Quote) Tabatha-827381 said: I have never heard the Church approve of the use of viagra ! Where did you hear/read this? I...
(Quote) Tabatha-827381 said:

I have never heard the Church approve of the use of viagra ! Where did you hear/read this? I'm having a hard time believing that the Church approves.

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I'm not sure if there's been a Papal decree praising it as moral, but it is certainly in line with the Catholic teaching on sex. As others have said, it assists sex in its natural form.

Sex must take place within marriage, and the formular of marriage is procreative and unitivite. Viagara assists both procreative and unitive. It doesn't change the sex act, it doesn't remove it from the confines of marriage and into a lab, it doesn't change the body to frustrate the procretive and by assisting the man it helps the unititive.

Viagara, if anything, is morally neutral; inof itself, it is not inherently evil nor inherently good. It can be used for evil, sure, 50 year old wanting to get it up so he can do his 28 year old secretary - evil. 50 year old man needing the assistance for celebrating his 25th wedding anniversary with his wife - good.

Seeing as the only impediment to Catholic Marriage is impotence, this can help men who otherwise would find themselves facing annullment proceedings.

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