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Saint Thomas More was martyred during the Protestant Reformation for standing firm in the Faith and not recognizing the King of England as the Supreme Head of the Church.
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Jan 22nd 2013 new

(Quote) Thomas-699657 said: Peter, I get what he is saying, but we have to keep the oil flowing and we can't let Israel ...
(Quote) Thomas-699657 said:

Peter, I get what he is saying, but we have to keep the oil flowing and we can't let Israel just get run over by Arabs. So we will always be at war with them and not much we can do, if they will not understand this.

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Here is the thing... we HAVE to have a presence over there. If it's because of the oil, so be it. If it's technology, minerals, ministry, helping to build communities, help educate their military, or commerce, whatever, it's a good thing. No more closed off countries where they are left to their own devices. We need to know what is going on within their borders for our security, and the good people who are there's security (whether they are Muslim or not.) And yes, also for Israel.

Cat

Jan 22nd 2013 new

(Quote) Cat-163322 said: Here is the thing... we HAVE to have a presence over there. If it's because of the oil,...
(Quote) Cat-163322 said:



Here is the thing... we HAVE to have a presence over there. If it's because of the oil, so be it. If it's technology, minerals, ministry, helping to build communities, help educate their military, or commerce, whatever, it's a good thing. No more closed off countries where they are left to their own devices. We need to know what is going on within their borders for our security, and the good people who are there's security (whether they are Muslim or not.) And yes, also for Israel.

Cat

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I agree that it's necessary to have a Middle East presence, but we should no longer have to pay for the 'privilege.' With over 200 nuclear warheads at their disposal, Israel is threatened seriously by no one. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, along with three former heads of Israel's Mossad have stated that Iran is not a threat in the forseeable future. Israel does not need our $3billion/year military aid. In the future if they need more weapons from us, they can actually pay for them. Of all countries in the world, they are listed as #17 in standard of living. Our foreign aid for the entire region should be restricted to humanitarian and not military- we can no longer afford or morally support future Middle Eastern wars. Iran's threats to US regional bases and to Israel are only in response to a preemptive attack by either or both of us. It is any country's right to respond in kind to an unprovoked attack- we would expect no less. The only agenda of our State Department should be to promote a more peaceful planet.

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