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Is it right or wrong?

Feb 16th 2013 new

I believe the catholic church should make a decision on whether or not using viagra is again Catholic teaching and God.


1)We all believe or asked to believe that abortion for what ever reason is against our teaching and church.
2) We all or are suppose to believe and practice ---NO premarital sex. Though I noticed that it is an option on this site.

If the above it true... Viagra also should be against Catholic believes and practice. God, whether directly or by medication is the one that chooses to make a man impotent. There maybe a very good reason God decided for the man to be impotent. His sperms maybe defective....Why put an innocent child through that misery. GOD is merciful. What gives humans the right to over ride GOD. We should not override GOD's decision in any matter when it comes to reproduction.
SEX is for reproduction and married couples. If sex in a marriage produces a handicapped child at least the child will have two loving parents. Handicapped children born by premarital sex are often raised solely by the mother since the father suddenly realizes that the church does not condone premarital sex.


What do other Catholic males or females think of the above. Agree or disagree and why?

Feb 16th 2013 new

I think it should be a sin to infiltrate my email with Viagra driven ads.... TV too!
Gawd... but I have had a chuckle or two at the expense of the 4 hour erection warning. laughing

Feb 16th 2013 new

AND.... shouldn't this thread be moved to another room?? Don't want folks assuming 45+ folks are the only ones who are not fans of Viagra. tongue

Feb 16th 2013 new

It's amazing that there aren't any male comments on this article.... LOL

Feb 16th 2013 new
(Quote) Carole-893801 said: I believe the catholic church should make a decision on whether or not using viagra is again Catholic teaching...
(Quote) Carole-893801 said:

I believe the catholic church should make a decision on whether or not using viagra is again Catholic teaching and God.


1)We all believe or asked to believe that abortion for what ever reason is against our teaching and church.
2) We all or are suppose to believe and practice ---NO premarital sex. Though I noticed that it is an option on this site.

If the above it true... Viagra also should be against Catholic believes and practice. God, whether directly or by medication is the one that chooses to make a man impotent. There maybe a very good reason God decided for the man to be impotent. His sperms maybe defective....Why put an innocent child through that misery. GOD is merciful. What gives humans the right to over ride GOD. We should not override GOD's decision in any matter when it comes to reproduction.
SEX is for reproduction and married couples. If sex in a marriage produces a handicapped child at least the child will have two loving parents. Handicapped children born by premarital sex are often raised solely by the mother since the father suddenly realizes that the church does not condone premarital sex.


What do other Catholic males or females think of the above. Agree or disagree and why?

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Carole, you are from my hometown. I don't know if you are aware, but there are many uses for Viagra and not limited for above purpose. As a matter of fact, I just gave it to one of my female patients the other day. Not taking offense to your example, but I have a handicapped son who was born of a marriage. That does not guarantee that one will not end up a single parent as I have witnessed over and over in Neill's school years. The stress of the child on a marriage is enormous and can break a relationship. People cope in different ways in many different situations.. My ex husband started drinking more and tore our family apart. I had a part in that as well because the children NEEDED so much attention and I worked as well and I was only one person. Not to get too involved but this topic is bifold. Just my humble opinion. Everything is not always black and white. Eileen
Feb 16th 2013 new

Exactly!!!! Everything is not black and white. I guess I was tired of reading the MANY view points from MEN re: what we should and should not do with our bodies, how we are wrong and even at time eluding to we are the route to all evil. I just wanted to put a twist to the discussions.
Eileen, I'm truly sorry to hear of your and your family's difficulties. I didn't mean to cause you any pain.

Feb 16th 2013 new
(Quote) Carole-893801 said: Exactly!!!! Everything is not black and white. I guess I was tired of reading the MANY view points from MEN ...
(Quote) Carole-893801 said:

Exactly!!!! Everything is not black and white. I guess I was tired of reading the MANY view points from MEN re: what we should and should not do with our bodies, how we are wrong and even at time eluding to we are the route to all evil. I just wanted to put a twist to the discussions.
Eileen, I'm truly sorry to hear of your and your family's difficulties. I didn't mean to cause you any pain.

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No pain here...all better! Just don't understand the correlation of these two subjects.
Feb 16th 2013 new

(Quote) Cindy-57124 said: AND.... shouldn't this thread be moved to another room?? Don't want folks assuming 45+ fol...
(Quote) Cindy-57124 said:

AND.... shouldn't this thread be moved to another room?? Don't want folks assuming 45+ folks are the only ones who are not fans of Viagra.

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Feb 16th 2013 new

(Quote) Carole-893801 said: Exactly!!!! Everything is not black and white. I guess I was tired of reading the MANY view poin...
(Quote) Carole-893801 said:

Exactly!!!! Everything is not black and white. I guess I was tired of reading the MANY view points from MEN re: what we should and should not do with our bodies, how we are wrong and even at time eluding to we are the route to all evil. I just wanted to put a twist to the discussions.
Eileen, I'm truly sorry to hear of your and your family's difficulties. I didn't mean to cause you any pain.

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Carole.. If you were in a long term loving ans sexually fulfilling marriage and your husband began having symptoms of impotence, I can darn well guarantee you you would be thankful for those drugs to keep the intimacy alive in your marriage.. Impotence is an extremely frustrating experience for both parties involved.

Feb 16th 2013 new

Correlation.
Per the catholic church abortion is wrong , premarital sex is wrong. but that is one of the questions on this site.
Birth control is wrong except for rythm methode( maybe that has changed)
Viagra when used by men outside of their marriage to enhance sexual performance should also be wrong.

If we believe that women become pregnant by God's grace and all babies are a gift from GOD because they are truly precious. ( Which I truly believe)

Should we not also believe that if we are not able to conceive or procreate. ... GOD has a reason?
If the above is true than If a man no longer can " preform" then maybe GOD has a reason for that too?

I'm not saying any of the above is right. I just think it is something to think about.

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