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Mar 1st 2013 new

(Quote) Bernie-645443 said: Hi Ray, is there a Church teaching on the morality of compromising with, condoning, enabling, or...
(Quote) Bernie-645443 said:

Hi Ray, is there a Church teaching on the morality of compromising with, condoning, enabling, or playing nice with what the Church teaches in intrinsic evil ?


In re gas prices and oil prices, it is worth a look at what those were in the months after GWB removed the ban on Gulf drilling in July 2008.

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Yes, church teaching....go to confession so you have a chance in he-double hockey sticks of making it at least to purgatory. eyebrow

Mar 1st 2013 new
(Quote) Ray-566531 said: To his credit, his campaign staff was more effective than that of the opposition. He is in offi...
(Quote) Ray-566531 said:

To his credit, his campaign staff was more effective than that of the opposition. He is in office now, and we can only hope for a major change when his term is completed.

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Obama lost in every single state which had voter ID laws! He stole the election with voter/election fraud...and buying votes via promising freebies/government handouts. These links represent only a sample. The topic is massive and complex.

Interesting Obama Lost In Every State With Voter ID Laws lonelyconservative.com

The Big List of Voter Fraud Reports - www.wnd.com

What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote - www.punditpress.com

More Luck! In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes - lonelyconservative.com

FBI asked to probe Obama 'vote-changing' machines - www.wnd.com
Mar 1st 2013 new

(Quote) Bernie-645443 said: Hi Ray, is there a Church teaching on the morality of compromising with, condoning, enabling, or...
(Quote) Bernie-645443 said:

Hi Ray, is there a Church teaching on the morality of compromising with, condoning, enabling, or playing nice with what the Church teaches in intrinsic evil ?


In re gas prices and oil prices, it is worth a look at what those were in the months after GWB removed the ban on Gulf drilling in July 2008.

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Nope, Bernie -- no room for compromising on matters that are evil.

Mar 1st 2013 new

(Quote) Ray-566531 said: Cheryl -- watch your blood pressure..... If you complain about gasoline prices, and want to ...
(Quote) Ray-566531 said:

Cheryl -- watch your blood pressure.....

If you complain about gasoline prices, and want to know why (don't we all????), we should find out of the rank & file workers have recently received raises, or is the supply being manipulated by those at the top of the food chain? We have to be careful whom to blame.

As for Obama, I'm not a fan of his, but still have respect for the office. To his credit, his campaign staff was more effective than that of the opposition. He is in office now, and we can only hope for a major change when his term is completed. For the record, I'm not enthusiastic about either major political party right now. It seems our elected representatives work harder to ensure their re-election than working together to solve our country's problems. They need to work and play well together to accomplish anything worthwhile. For now, it just ain't happening.

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The answer to oil prices can be complex. But one of the main reasons is the idiotic prohibition on the development of our own resources and the building of refineries.

The known and proven reserves of oil in the US alone, is in the trillions of barrels, enough to take care of our needs for a couple of hundred years. And that assumes that only half of the oil in our oil shale and sands is recoverable.

But we ban new drilling both on land and in our sea waters. We have the Luddites who insist the world is ending because of MAN.

We waste bushels of money building wind turbines which kill a lot of bird life especially the California Condor which is an endangered species. We spend money to build solar collectors that are a visual blithe on our land. And the environmentalists think it is great because we are not polluting with oil. As if pumping and processing oil of necessity means befouling both land and sea.

And of course, if common sense ever started to penetrate, the current fad of man made global warning puts a stop to it.

Mar 1st 2013 new

(Quote) Paul-866591 said: The answer to oil prices can be complex. But one of the main reasons is the idiotic prohi...
(Quote) Paul-866591 said:

The answer to oil prices can be complex. But one of the main reasons is the idiotic prohibition on the development of our own resources and the building of refineries.

The known and proven reserves of oil in the US alone, is in the trillions of barrels, enough to take care of our needs for a couple of hundred years. And that assumes that only half of the oil in our oil shale and sands is recoverable.

But we ban new drilling both on land and in our sea waters. We have the Luddites who insist the world is ending because of MAN.

We waste bushels of money building wind turbines which kill a lot of bird life especially the California Condor which is an endangered species. We spend money to build solar collectors that are a visual blithe on our land. And the environmentalists think it is great because we are not polluting with oil. As if pumping and processing oil of necessity means befouling both land and sea.

And of course, if common sense ever started to penetrate, the current fad of man made global warning puts a stop to it.

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...and don't forget to point out how much money went in to these failed environmental projects that lined Obama's friends' pockets.

Mar 1st 2013 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: ...and don't forget to point out how much money went in to these failed environmental projec...
(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said:

...and don't forget to point out how much money went in to these failed environmental projects that lined Obama's friends' pockets.

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Cheryl: Thank you for starting this thread. I liked the way you defended your beliefs. I totally concur. I just don't know that I could have articulated them as well as you have done.

Mary: thank you for suggesting this was a less than fair election. Personally I use the word rigged, but what do I know?


Obama is doing what Dr. Goebbels, Hitler's propoganda minister said a few decades ago. Make the lie big, repeat it often enough and the sheeple will believe it. I do not for one second believe Obama is trying to improve the economy. He is trying to grind us down, make us all dependents of the state. Personally, I believe this country will have its own Reichstag moment as well as our own Kristallnacht, only this time it will be the Catholics and perhaps some evangelicals who will be rounded up and imprisoned, or worse, as enemies of the state.

Mar 2nd 2013 new

Yes, Cheryl, I will now have to work much hard hug er and much longer because of the minimum wage increase. But I trust that the good Lord will still take care of me and everything will be OK.

Paul and I started our business over twenty years ago for many reasons. One of these was to provide a place for our children to go to after school and in the summer. .."Idle hands are the devil's handiwork!"...and where they could learn valuable life lessons. And indeed, they did! While their friends were stuck in the house playing Atari, Mario and Luigi and Pacman (does anyone remember those?), or up to no good at the magical hour of 4:20pm (it took me years to figure out why that time was so 'special"!!! scratchchin ), our kids were learning to run a cash register, place orders with salespeople, wait on customers, balance a checkbook, look adults in the eye, speak politely and clearly and experienced first-hand the value of a hard-earned dollar. You'd have to ask them, but I know there are plenty more memories (good AND bad). embarassed

Except for my fifteen year old still at home, the older four have grown into fine young adults, with successful careers and marriages of their own (except for my 30 year old son Christopher who is still single...anyone?? anyone??... wave ) .

Owning a Lawn and Garden Center has unique needs in the labor pool. Though open year-round (we also sell pet foods and other items), the seasonal nature of a nursery requires that we hire additional help during our busy spring/summer season. We always tried to help others and give a chance to some who otherwise would have a hard time finding work. Heck, we've even had some parents beg us to let their son/daughter work for us...WITHOUT PAY...just so they could see that money does not grow on trees and that anything worth having in life is worth working and waiting for. Looks like we were known for a good, solid work ethic! biggrin

One mother wanted us to have her teenage son just dig a big hole...and then have us tell him to fill it back up again! I think she was a little desperate rolling eyes , but most of those we took on, did thank us for the lessons they learned, and the experience they gained. I lost track of the number of people who spoke so highly of Paul and of their time at our Garden Center at his viewing last year. Anyway...

What is my point relative to this discussion? I'm not learned enough to speak credibly about the pros and cons others have brought up. I just know that in my case, money was not always the issue. Some things cannot have a price tag put on them.

Just the past two weeks, I've had five very motivated, upstanding, bright young people wanting me to hire them. Since I'm treading on thin ice - in more ways than one - and trying to run this whole thing on my own for the very first time, I knew that I needed some extra workers, and they all would bring something positive to my business, I said OK! Now, I must sit down and reconcile the cost of paying them to do the extra work, versus not. They ALL quite plainly told me that $7.25 per hour was just fine with them, for most only wanted a part-time job and they had heard through the grapevine that my store was a great, exciting place to work. What do I do? Even before this wage increase goes into effect, I don't think I can manage to keep them all. I still believe it will all work out. It always does. Just glance at the pictures of the Madonna and Divine Mercy Jesus hanging on my walls.

theheart rosary theheart Jesus, I trust in You! theheart :rosary: :theheart:

Mar 2nd 2013 new

(Quote) Tracy-929496 said: Yes, Cheryl, I will now have to work much hard er and much longer because of the minimum wage inc...
(Quote) Tracy-929496 said:

Yes, Cheryl, I will now have to work much hard er and much longer because of the minimum wage increase. But I trust that the good Lord will still take care of me and everything will be OK.

Paul and I started our business over twenty years ago for many reasons. One of these was to provide a place for our children to go to after school and in the summer. .."Idle hands are the devil's handiwork!"...and where they could learn valuable life lessons. And indeed, they did! While their friends were stuck in the house playing Atari, Mario and Luigi and Pacman (does anyone remember those?), or up to no good at the magical hour of 4:20pm (it took me years to figure out why that time was so 'special"!!! ), our kids were learning to run a cash register, place orders with salespeople, wait on customers, balance a checkbook, look adults in the eye, speak politely and clearly and experienced first-hand the value of a hard-earned dollar. You'd have to ask them, but I know there are plenty more memories (good AND bad).

Except for my fifteen year old still at home, the older four have grown into fine young adults, with successful careers and marriages of their own (except for my 30 year old son Christopher who is still single...anyone?? anyone??... ) .

Owning a Lawn and Garden Center has unique needs in the labor pool. Though open year-round (we also sell pet foods and other items), the seasonal nature of a nursery requires that we hire additional help during our busy spring/summer season. We always tried to help others and give a chance to some who otherwise would have a hard time finding work. Heck, we've even had some parents beg us to let their son/daughter work for us...WITHOUT PAY...just so they could see that money does not grow on trees and that anything worth having in life is worth working and waiting for. Looks like we were known for a good, solid work ethic!

One mother wanted us to have her teenage son just dig a big hole...and then have us tell him to fill it back up again! I think she was a little desperate , but most of those we took on, did thank us for the lessons they learned, and the experience they gained. I lost track of the number of people who spoke so highly of Paul and of their time at our Garden Center at his viewing last year. Anyway...

What is my point relative to this discussion? I'm not learned enough to speak credibly about the pros and cons others have brought up. I just know that in my case, money was not always the issue. Some things cannot have a price tag put on them.

Just the past two weeks, I've had five very motivated, upstanding, bright young people wanting me to hire them. Since I'm treading on thin ice - in more ways than one - and trying to run this whole thing on my own for the very first time, I knew that I needed some extra workers, and they all would bring something positive to my business, I said OK! Now, I must sit down and reconcile the cost of paying them to do the extra work, versus not. They ALL quite plainly told me that $7.25 per hour was just fine with them, for most only wanted a part-time job and they had heard through the grapevine that my store was a great, exciting place to work. What do I do? Even before this wage increase goes into effect, I don't think I can manage to keep them all. I still believe it will all work out. It always does. Just glance at the pictures of the Madonna and Divine Mercy Jesus hanging on my walls.

Jesus, I trust in You!

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Thank you for sharing....what a wonderfully inspiring post. May God bless you and make you fruitful.

Mar 6th 2013 new

(Quote) Jim-13836 said: Cheryl: Thank you for starting this thread. I liked the way you defended your beliefs. ...
(Quote) Jim-13836 said:


Cheryl: Thank you for starting this thread. I liked the way you defended your beliefs. I totally concur. I just don't know that I could have articulated them as well as you have done.

Mary: thank you for suggesting this was a less than fair election. Personally I use the word rigged, but what do I know?


Obama is doing what Dr. Goebbels, Hitler's propoganda minister said a few decades ago. Make the lie big, repeat it often enough and the sheeple will believe it. I do not for one second believe Obama is trying to improve the economy. He is trying to grind us down, make us all dependents of the state. Personally, I believe this country will have its own Reichstag moment as well as our own Kristallnacht, only this time it will be the Catholics and perhaps some evangelicals who will be rounded up and imprisoned, or worse, as enemies of the state.

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Recently, a whole LOT of people have been showing me the correlation between the liberal socialist "democrat" party and Obama with Hitler's socialism. Only a blind person could choose to not see and ignore these correlations. Marissa posted on another thread some scary correlations and some things that are happening right now in Europe. I have to ask her again, but I think she studied history. Anyway, she mentioned that in France, which used to be a Christian country, you now can not wear a cross in public...can you imagine??? She also posted more on history regarding the rise of Nazism that is scary close to what has started here....from the freebies hitler gave out to taxing anyone who didn't agree with you (the Catholic church), etc. You should read the post on that thread about Obama purchasing tanks.

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