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Feb 23rd 2013 new

Please don't disparage or revile the Church. It can cause grave harm.

Feb 23rd 2013 new
As in all of society the devil is working over time . If we here see this , recognize this, then perhaps it is God who is calling all of us to prayer and sacrifice for the Church , we are called to holiness , prayer , sacrifices , that all see what God is seeing and in humility , let our actions speak not our words , let our sacrifice be to hold constantly in prayer our church to return to that which God created her . Let us pray , let us listen , let us be silently carrying our crosses for Christ for the church to find her devotion , her submission to Christ , her holiness , her reverence for Christ and may God use us to reflect these behaviors , attitudes , let us look within and be submissive into God in love for Him and His church and help rather than hinder with negativity which is work from the dark side . Let us do all we can in spirit to work in Gods holy light . God blessings to all
Feb 23rd 2013 new
(Quote) Stacey-101742 said: As in all of society the devil is working over time . If we here see this , recognize this, then perhaps it is Go...
(Quote) Stacey-101742 said: As in all of society the devil is working over time . If we here see this , recognize this, then perhaps it is God who is calling all of us to prayer and sacrifice for the Church , we are called to holiness , prayer , sacrifices , that all see what God is seeing and in humility , let our actions speak not our words , let our sacrifice be to hold constantly in prayer our church to return to that which God created her . Let us pray , let us listen , let us be silently carrying our crosses for Christ for the church to find her devotion , her submission to Christ , her holiness , her reverence for Christ and may God use us to reflect these behaviors , attitudes , let us look within and be submissive into God in love for Him and His church and help rather than hinder with negativity which is work from the dark side . Let us do all we can in spirit to work in Gods holy light . God blessings to all
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Only prayer, fasting and humility will restore the faith. Pride and arrogance has opened the door for demonic secularism.
Feb 23rd 2013 new
(Quote) David-364112 said: Please don't disparage or revile the Church. It can cause grave harm.
(Quote) David-364112 said:

Please don't disparage or revile the Church. It can cause grave harm.

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So David, you condone this?

Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedict XVI is hanging up his camauro, one has taken on a life of its own. According to several well-placed vaticanistior Vatican expertsin Rome, Benedict is resigning after being handed a secret red-covered dossier that included details about a network of gay priests who work inside the Vatican, but who play in secular Rome. The priests, it seems, are allegedly being blackmailed by a network of male prostitutes who worked at a sauna in Romes Quarto Miglio district, a health spa in the city center, and a private residence once entrusted to a prominent archbishop. The evidence reportedly includes compromising photos and videos of the prelatessometimes caught on film in drag, and, in some cases, caught in the act.

www.thedailybeast.com

Play ostrich all you like. It won't make reality go away.
Feb 23rd 2013 new

Cui bono? As I posted somewhere else, Wayne Madsen claimed last year that a Vatican Spring was in the works. Most likely these allegations regarding the sins of cardinals and priests are true, but for what purpose is blackmail being used? I think the pope's resignation may be part of a coup d'etat. Ahh, the Vatican, where geopolitics, finance and theology all converge.

(Quote) John-220051 said: So David, you condone this? Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedic...
(Quote) John-220051 said:

So David, you condone this?

Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedict XVI is hanging up his camauro, one has taken on a life of its own. According to several well-placed vaticanistior Vatican expertsin Rome, Benedict is resigning after being handed a secret red-covered dossier that included details about a network of gay priests who work inside the Vatican, but who play in secular Rome. The priests, it seems, are allegedly being blackmailed by a network of male prostitutes who worked at a sauna in Romes Quarto Miglio district, a health spa in the city center, and a private residence once entrusted to a prominent archbishop. The evidence reportedly includes compromising photos and videos of the prelatessometimes caught on film in drag, and, in some cases, caught in the act.

www.thedailybeast.com

Play ostrich all you like. It won't make reality go away.
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Feb 23rd 2013 new

(Quote) John-220051 said: So David, you condone this? Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedic...
(Quote) John-220051 said:

So David, you condone this?

Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedict XVI is hanging up his camauro, one has taken on a life of its own. According to several well-placed vaticanistior Vatican expertsin Rome, Benedict is resigning after being handed a secret red-covered dossier that included details about a network of gay priests who work inside the Vatican, but who play in secular Rome. The priests, it seems, are allegedly being blackmailed by a network of male prostitutes who worked at a sauna in Romes Quarto Miglio district, a health spa in the city center, and a private residence once entrusted to a prominent archbishop. The evidence reportedly includes compromising photos and videos of the prelatessometimes caught on film in drag, and, in some cases, caught in the act.

www.thedailybeast.com

Play ostrich all you like. It won't make reality go away.
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The Daily Beast? Really? (It MUST be true, then.)

I'll give you a tip about journalism. You see these words, "Of all the rumors floating around...," "According to several well-placed Vatican experts in Rome," "The priests, it seems...," "allegedly," and "the evidence reportedly..."?

It means it's unreliable information. It's sensationalism. You have no idea why the Pope is resigning, John. Why on earth would you quote this crap?

Feb 23rd 2013 new

(Quote) Sean-851370 said: Cui bono? As I posted somewhere else, Wayne Madsen claimed last year that a Vatican Spring was in ...
(Quote) Sean-851370 said:

Cui bono? As I posted somewhere else, Wayne Madsen claimed last year that a Vatican Spring was in the works. Most likely these allegations regarding the sins of cardinals and priests are true, but for what purpose is blackmail being used? I think the pope's resignation may be part of a coup d'etat. Ahh, the Vatican, where geopolitics, finance and theology all converge.

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Sean, do yourself a favor.


Find something to do that makes you too tired to search the internet on your spare time.

Feb 23rd 2013 new

(Quote) John-220051 said: So David, you condone this? Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedic...
(Quote) John-220051 said:

So David, you condone this?

Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedict XVI is hanging up his camauro, one has taken on a life of its own. According to several well-placed vaticanistior Vatican expertsin Rome, Benedict is resigning after being handed a secret red-covered dossier that included details about a network of gay priests who work inside the Vatican, but who play in secular Rome. The priests, it seems, are allegedly being blackmailed by a network of male prostitutes who worked at a sauna in Romes Quarto Miglio district, a health spa in the city center, and a private residence once entrusted to a prominent archbishop. The evidence reportedly includes compromising photos and videos of the prelatessometimes caught on film in drag, and, in some cases, caught in the act.

www.thedailybeast.com

Play ostrich all you like. It won't make reality go away.
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No. I don't condone that. Not in the least. I wasn't addressing Vatican officials but rather those who use these forums to disparage and revile the entire hierarchy for the actions of some wayward priests and bishops. I pray for the Church every day and God will take care of it in his time and manner. But to spread discouragement and distaste for the church's leaders, however bad some of them are, is NOT a good thing and I urge everyone to stop doing it - at least in the manner in which it's being done. You can understand that distinction, can't you?

Feb 23rd 2013 new

(Quote) Stacey-101742 said: As in all of society the devil is working over time . If we here see this , recognize this, then perhap...
(Quote) Stacey-101742 said: As in all of society the devil is working over time . If we here see this , recognize this, then perhaps it is God who is calling all of us to prayer and sacrifice for the Church , we are called to holiness , prayer , sacrifices , that all see what God is seeing and in humility , let our actions speak not our words , let our sacrifice be to hold constantly in prayer our church to return to that which God created her . Let us pray , let us listen , let us be silently carrying our crosses for Christ for the church to find her devotion , her submission to Christ , her holiness , her reverence for Christ and may God use us to reflect these behaviors , attitudes , let us look within and be submissive into God in love for Him and His church and help rather than hinder with negativity which is work from the dark side . Let us do all we can in spirit to work in Gods holy light . God blessings to all
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theheart Thank you!

Feb 23rd 2013 new

(Quote) John-220051 said: So David, you condone this? Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedic...
(Quote) John-220051 said:

So David, you condone this?

Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedict XVI is hanging up his camauro, one has taken on a life of its own. According to several well-placed vaticanistior Vatican expertsin Rome, Benedict is resigning after being handed a secret red-covered dossier that included details about a network of gay priests who work inside the Vatican, but who play in secular Rome. The priests, it seems, are allegedly being blackmailed by a network of male prostitutes who worked at a sauna in Romes Quarto Miglio district, a health spa in the city center, and a private residence once entrusted to a prominent archbishop. The evidence reportedly includes compromising photos and videos of the prelatessometimes caught on film in drag, and, in some cases, caught in the act.

www.thedailybeast.com

Play ostrich all you like. It won't make reality go away.
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All the ostriches are chanting "santo subito!" The liberal ostriches think the Church began with John XXIII and the mainstream conservative ostriches think the pontificate of JPII was the greatest ever. The delusion is incredible.

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