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Mar 11th 2013 new

(Quote) Beth-827223 said: For the first time in my life I don't fear China or any other country...I fear the Socialist &...
(Quote) Beth-827223 said:

For the first time in my life I don't fear China or any other country...I fear the Socialist "Dicktater" in Washington.....We are now fighting for Freedom of Religion, Constitution & Second Amendment Rights...

Nuff said..
Psalms 109:8 'Let his days be few; and let another take his office.'

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Unfortunately that won't really improve anything. Then again if we get Joe Biden at least we'd have more to laugh about.

Mar 11th 2013 new

Actually, I find Joe Biden on the same level of Obama....God have mercy on their souls. Joe is a discrace to the Catholic Church. One who sleeps with the Devil standing firm on abortion, birth control & same sex marriage should be excumunicated from the Church. Biden, Pelosi and others continue to stand by their outspoken leader offending the church on a daily basis. Soon as they said public they support Abortion and a womans right.....

Abortion - Excommunication

The way the excommunication for abortion works is this.

Canon 1398 provides that, "a person who procures a successful abortion incurs an automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication." This means that at the very moment that the abortion is successfully accomplished, the woman and all formal conspirators are excommunicated.

An abortion is defined as "the killing of the foetus, in whatever way or at whatever time from the moment of conception" (Pontifical Council for the Interpretation of Legislative Texts, published in the "Acts of the Apostolic See" vol. 80 (1988), 1818). This definition applies to any means, including drugs, by which a human being present in the woman is killed. Thus, once a woman knows she is pregnant the intentional killing of the new life within her is not only murder but an excommunicable offense. A woman who only thinks she might be pregnant has a grave responsibility to find out and to protect the possible life within. Any action to end a "possible" pregnancy while probably not an excommunicable offense would be callous disregard for life and gravely sinful.

Conspirators who incur the excommunication can be defined as those who make access to the abortion possible. This certainly includes doctors and nurses who actually do it, husbands, family and others whose counsel and encouragement made it morally possible for the woman, and those whose direct practical support made it possible (financially, driving to the clinic etc.).

Clearly those who think the availability of chemical abortions will settle the abortion issue are deluded. It will only widen to drug manufacturers, pharmacists and family physicians those guilty of grave sin and subject to excommunication. [It should also be noted that many contraceptive pills are already abortifacient in operation. Theoretically, the knowing use of such a pill for its abortafacient purpose could also subject one to excommunication. Pill manufacturers have recently been touting this capability of their deadly wares.]
www.ewtn.com

Mar 12th 2013 new

(Quote) Beth-827223 said: Actually, I find Joe Biden on the same level of Obama....God have mercy on their souls. Joe is a d...
(Quote) Beth-827223 said:

Actually, I find Joe Biden on the same level of Obama....God have mercy on their souls. Joe is a discrace to the Catholic Church. One who sleeps with the Devil standing firm on abortion, birth control & same sex marriage should be excumunicated from the Church. Biden, Pelosi and others continue to stand by their outspoken leader offending the church on a daily basis. Soon as they said public they support Abortion and a womans right.....

Abortion - Excommunication

The way the excommunication for abortion works is this.

Canon 1398 provides that, "a person who procures a successful abortion incurs an automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication." This means that at the very moment that the abortion is successfully accomplished, the woman and all formal conspirators are excommunicated.

An abortion is defined as "the killing of the foetus, in whatever way or at whatever time from the moment of conception" (Pontifical Council for the Interpretation of Legislative Texts, published in the "Acts of the Apostolic See" vol. 80 (1988), 1818). This definition applies to any means, including drugs, by which a human being present in the woman is killed. Thus, once a woman knows she is pregnant the intentional killing of the new life within her is not only murder but an excommunicable offense. A woman who only thinks she might be pregnant has a grave responsibility to find out and to protect the possible life within. Any action to end a "possible" pregnancy while probably not an excommunicable offense would be callous disregard for life and gravely sinful.

Conspirators who incur the excommunication can be defined as those who make access to the abortion possible. This certainly includes doctors and nurses who actually do it, husbands, family and others whose counsel and encouragement made it morally possible for the woman, and those whose direct practical support made it possible (financially, driving to the clinic etc.).

Clearly those who think the availability of chemical abortions will settle the abortion issue are deluded. It will only widen to drug manufacturers, pharmacists and family physicians those guilty of grave sin and subject to excommunication. [It should also be noted that many contraceptive pills are already abortifacient in operation. Theoretically, the knowing use of such a pill for its abortafacient purpose could also subject one to excommunication. Pill manufacturers have recently been touting this capability of their deadly wares.]
www.ewtn.com

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Thank you Beth for that informative post. I concur. I am surprised people like Biden, Pelosi, Kennedy(s), et al were not foirmally and publicly excommunicated. Your article took it one step further that I'd never thought about: drug manufacturers. And what of the bishops who do not make public their disdain for abortion and publicly announce people who have pro-choice beliefs or actions are not to present themselves for Holy Communion?

Mar 12th 2013 new

Hi you guys! Its a breathe of fresh air to see others who are aware of whats REALLY going on. You know...besides how hell the economy is doing. LOL

They are preparing for martial law according to all my sources. Also, according to AGENDA 21 (part of the New World Order) the US is to be the Police for the entire world or at least those nations who signed onto Agenda 21. Bascially all the NATO countries! If any of you are unaware of " Agenda 21", you might want check it out on Youtube or google or both. Its the United Nations diabolical plan to rule the world. They are planning on taking away our rights to bear arms ( obviously), own land, own homes, have children, etc etc. Check it out. My parents thought I was nuts when I told them about this until last week when my Mom told me about a book someone at church insisted she read. Its called " They Fired The First Shot". Written by a priest, and its 900 pages long. The woman gave her the book said she bought a case of them and is handing them all out. She asked my Mom to pass it on to someone else when shes done. Agenda 21 is in this book as well as many other scary things that are going on such as our food, and water being deliberately poisoned. I know it all sound crazy but its all true.

BTW....My carpet cleaner and I got into a conversation about politics. He voted for Obummer and I of course didnt. Anyway he said something very scary happened last year. His nephew who was home on furlow from the Army was in the living room studying. Suddenly he got really upset about something he was reading. My carpet gut ( James) said "whats up you look like you saw a ghost"? The nephew responded by telling James what he was having to study. It was about Martial Law training. Each city has a loop around it like here in Cincinnati its I-275. On all the loops there will be tanks with soldiers. Thats how they will keep the cities contained. There will be orders to shoot to kill! No questions asked! The nephew was also studying hand and arm signals that were to be used because there will be NO comminication other than signals. NO communication with civillians what so ever!

Ive joined "OATHKEEPERS" ( founded by a Constitutional Attorney) since finding out whats really going on. They are trying to get as many law, enforcement, armed services, millitary, etc as possible to join. They will NOT follow the establishments orders! Check out their website. Oathkeepers.com


Gotta go for now,


Nancy






Mar 12th 2013 new

(Quote) Nancy-528547 said: Hi you guys! Its a breathe of fresh air to see others who are aware of whats REALLY going on. You...
(Quote) Nancy-528547 said:

Hi you guys! Its a breathe of fresh air to see others who are aware of whats REALLY going on. You know...besides how well the economy is doing. LOL

They are preparing for martial law according to all my sources. Also, according to AGENDA 21 (part of the New World Order) the US is to be the Police for the entire world or at least those nations who signed onto Agenda 21. Bascially all the NATO countries! If any of you are unaware of " Agenda 21", you might want check it out on Youtube or google or both. Its the United Nations diabolical plan to rule the world. They are planning on taking away our rights to bear arms ( obviously), own land, own homes, have children, etc etc. Check it out. My parents thought I was nuts when I told them about this until last week when my Mom told me about a book someone at church insisted she read. Its called " They Fired The First Shot". Written by a priest, and its 900 pages long. The woman gave her the book said she bought a case of them and is handing them all out. She asked my Mom to pass it on to someone else when shes done. Agenda 21 is in this book as well as many other scary things that are going on such as our food, and water being deliberately poisoned. I know it all sound crazy but its all true.

BTW....My carpet cleaner and I got into a conversation about politics. He voted for Obummer and I of course didnt. Anyway he said something very scary happened last year. His nephew who was home on furlow from the Army was in the living room studying. Suddenly he got really upset about something he was reading. My carpet gut ( James) said "whats up you look like you saw a ghost"? The nephew responded by telling James what he was having to study. It was about Martial Law training. Each city has a loop around it like here in Cincinnati its I-275. On all the loops there will be tanks with soldiers. Thats how they will keep the cities contained. There will be orders to shoot to kill! No questions asked! The nephew was also studying hand and arm signals that were to be used because there will be NO comminication other than signals. NO communication with civillians what so ever!

Ive joined "OATHKEEPERS" ( founded by a Constitutional Attorney) since finding out whats really going on. They are trying to get as many law, enforcement, armed services, millitary, etc as possible to join. They will NOT follow the establishments orders! Check out their website. Oathkeepers.com


Gotta go for now,


Nancy

BTW....might wanna check this out. The "TPP" which is going on now will allow Global Coorporate Takeover.

www.youtube.com






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Mar 12th 2013 new

Im trying to figure out how to post this video.


www.youtube.com


This is about TPP. Going on right now! This will allow Global Coorporate Takeover! In other words the globalist elite!


Have a great day all,


Nancy

Mar 12th 2013 new

(Quote) Nancy-528547 said: Im trying to figure out how to post this video. www.youtube.com.
(Quote) Nancy-528547 said:

Im trying to figure out how to post this video.


www.youtube.com


This is about TPP. Going on right now! This will allow Global Coorporate Takeover! In other words the globalist elite!


Have a great day all,


Nancy

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I'll post it.Thank you for the link! Wow!

Mar 12th 2013 new

(Quote) Nancy-528547 said: Hi you guys! Its a breathe of fresh air to see others who are aware of whats REALLY going on. You...
(Quote) Nancy-528547 said:

Hi you guys! Its a breathe of fresh air to see others who are aware of whats REALLY going on. You know...besides how hell the economy is doing. LOL

They are preparing for martial law according to all my sources. Also, according to AGENDA 21 (part of the New World Order) the US is to be the Police for the entire world or at least those nations who signed onto Agenda 21. Bascially all the NATO countries! If any of you are unaware of " Agenda 21", you might want check it out on Youtube or google or both. Its the United Nations diabolical plan to rule the world. They are planning on taking away our rights to bear arms ( obviously), own land, own homes, have children, etc etc. Check it out. My parents thought I was nuts when I told them about this until last week when my Mom told me about a book someone at church insisted she read. Its called " They Fired The First Shot". Written by a priest, and its 900 pages long. The woman gave her the book said she bought a case of them and is handing them all out. She asked my Mom to pass it on to someone else when shes done. Agenda 21 is in this book as well as many other scary things that are going on such as our food, and water being deliberately poisoned. I know it all sound crazy but its all true.

BTW....My carpet cleaner and I got into a conversation about politics. He voted for Obummer and I of course didnt. Anyway he said something very scary happened last year. His nephew who was home on furlow from the Army was in the living room studying. Suddenly he got really upset about something he was reading. My carpet gut ( James) said "whats up you look like you saw a ghost"? The nephew responded by telling James what he was having to study. It was about Martial Law training. Each city has a loop around it like here in Cincinnati its I-275. On all the loops there will be tanks with soldiers. Thats how they will keep the cities contained. There will be orders to shoot to kill! No questions asked! The nephew was also studying hand and arm signals that were to be used because there will be NO comminication other than signals. NO communication with civillians what so ever!

Ive joined "OATHKEEPERS" ( founded by a Constitutional Attorney) since finding out whats really going on. They are trying to get as many law, enforcement, armed services, millitary, etc as possible to join. They will NOT follow the establishments orders! Check out their website. Oathkeepers.com


Gotta go for now,


Nancy





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This is a perfect example of taking true facts and trying to turn them into something scary.

It is perfect, because none of the "scary" details are scary to anybody who knows anything about the military.

Soldiers learn hand arm signals because it's a really, really, really stupid idea to talk loudly when you're trying to sneak up on an enemy position where people with machine guns and grenades will immediately try and kill you if they figure out that you're there. This has nothing to do with "not communicating with civilians."

If the diabolical UN wants to put "tanks with soldiers" on I-275, let them. The vast majority of Cincinatti which is not directly visible from the beltway will be nice and safe. When they put artilery in the center and disperse the tanks into the neighboorhoods, that's when you need to worry.

There's no point in poisoning the food and water. If there were an evil "They" who controled the governement and wanted to kill the population, "They" would have quicker, easier ways of doing it.

I realize I'm wasting my breath, but I thought I'd say it anyway.

Mar 15th 2013 new

(Quote) John-336509 said: This is a perfect example of taking true facts and trying to turn them into some...
(Quote) John-336509 said:

This is a perfect example of taking true facts and trying to turn them into something scary.

It is perfect, because none of the "scary" details are scary to anybody who knows anything about the military.

Soldiers learn hand arm signals because it's a really, really, really stupid idea to talk loudly when you're trying to sneak up on an enemy position where people with machine guns and grenades will immediately try and kill you if they figure out that you're there. This has nothing to do with "not communicating with civilians."

If the diabolical UN wants to put "tanks with soldiers" on I-275, let them. The vast majority of Cincinatti which is not directly visible from the beltway will be nice and safe. When they put artilery in the center and disperse the tanks into the neighboorhoods, that's when you need to worry.

There's no point in poisoning the food and water. If there were an evil "They" who controled the governement and wanted to kill the population, "They" would have quicker, easier ways of doing it.

I realize I'm wasting my breath, but I thought I'd say it anyway.

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Hi John,

I think I know where the worry is coming from and I'm sure you are aware of it. Massachussates and the targeting of children to accept every perversion under the sun as being normal. It is called claiming the next generation. What is the government doing about protecting parents rights? This is just another piece in the puzzle of the dismantling of America and taking it to God knows where. There is no clear moral direction to emulate. Society, which for me, is where the "They" operate, is a quagmire of filth. They, the politicians, have not got the stomach nor spine to put an end to this child abuse. So this is where I am coming from. All the pieces when viewed as a whole put America's future in the rubbish bin and when the fabric of society falls apart, then the armed militias are needed for restororation of order, according to whoever heads up government.

Mar 16th 2013 new

Hi John,
I am with you. If we talk facts the LEFT will put their heads in the sand...or go play another round of golf... wave goldfish You get a Gold Star!

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