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Mar 6th 2013 new

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Exactly my point. Glad you got it.

Mar 6th 2013 new

(Quote) John-336509 said: (Quote) Bernard-2709 said: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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Exactly my point. Glad you got it.

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Good .You are dimissed soldier. wave laughing

Mar 6th 2013 new

(Quote) John-336509 said: Do you actually have a point?
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Do you actually have a point?

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Well the point is, your country is being internally and externally being manipulated to fail at the basic level of human interaction. Part evidence is when a government starts arming itself against the people they represent is probably the only indicator they can't mask. I don't understand what your objecting to. You got bogged down with the Tanks element and that doesn't matter a pile of Blow Fly Do Do's when it comes down to it. This armament acquiring frenzy of your government is unexplainable in the light of down scaling the USA presence overseas. What do you think all these munitions are for. Why would someone waste taxpayers money on a whim or , "OH it's a bargain give me 7 Transport ships full!" If you look into history, and only a little way I might add, the pattern is there in relation to seizing absolute control and creating a dictator ship. Now your blood pressure might go up but bare with me. One Adolph Hitler surrounded himself with renegade Catholics, whom saw themselves as enlightened modern believers. The Jews were demonised, Gypsies were seen as human vermin, disabled were seen as useless and for their own good, euthanasia was seen as the best solution. They justified their views as economically responsible with the added benefit of relieving suffering. This is a line of thinking that euthanases their conscience. They tell themselves they are good people and tough decisions have to be made for the good of all. That is what is going down in the USA today. Truly active committed Catholics that uphold the Churhes teaching are seen as dangerous conscience stirrers that for the good of society need to be shut down. Notre Dame is a case in point of Catholic traitors selling out and calling themselves progressives. There are Theologians there that are massively out of step with the Churches Teaching. They even ridicule that which is morally bound and that which is non negotiable. Belief required to be a functioning member and not a dissenting member. You can't tun up for duty in the Marines or Navy Seals dressed in a Tu Tu and say, "I'm a progressive, it's my conscientous belief!" No one believed it could happen to the Jews, people who spoke up were seen as hysterical Chiken Little's. Even today there are fools that won't believe it happened. I wonder where they think the 6 million are hiding??Now to jerk back to the present, the rhetoric has started, the demonising of groups has started. There is unusual movements of arms and munitions. Look around there are other more troubling signs being uncovered by people with military training that require investigation. I'll leave it there for the moment. This is not fanciful scaremongering. The Light Militery Vehicles can be touched, the bullets are real and as one CM observer noted there are thousands of tanks in Large groups sitting idle. Oh that's right, its probably an Army Drive In theatre. soapbox two cents Go USA

Mar 6th 2013 new

(Quote) John-336509 said: Strategy: Find a some pictures and lie about what's in them. Make a bunch of general ...
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Strategy: Find a some pictures and lie about what's in them. Make a bunch of general statements and vague innuendo. Once you have the attention of the people who are naturally distrustfull or hate some person or organization, use that distrust and hatred to fan the flames of fear. Make lots and lots of accusations that are backed by true but meaningless facts. If the facts aren't covenient, exaggerate or even lie. Say that any holes in your argument are because "they" have silenced the truth. Whatever you do, don't ever get too specific- at that point you run the risk of somebody actually proving you wrong. Just keep in vague and general...

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Who cares whether they are tanks or not. They are armored vehicles that governments use to quash riots...food riots? Christians rounded up?...

Why does Motherland Security need so many of them?


The current Occupiers of the federal government wouldn't want to get too specific,as in presenting a budget, now would they.

Mar 6th 2013 new

(Quote) Paul-866591 said: Probably at your local mosque. This government seems to have no problem intruding anywher...
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Probably at your local mosque. This government seems to have no problem intruding anywhere except a mosque, because they don'twant to antagonize any Muslims.

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laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing I was laughing so hard and then I realized how truthful that statement is. eyepopping

Mar 6th 2013 new

(Quote) Cheryl-409772 said: I just posted in the other thread how unnerving it is that what happened in Germany before World...
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I just posted in the other thread how unnerving it is that what happened in Germany before World War 2 is correlating so closely with what is happening right here in the US now.....SCARY. I was watching a show on EWTN about Pope Benedict who grew up at that time in Germany. They discussed how it began with the SOCIALIST party growing! People don't even realize that this is what is going on. Then when the socialist won and war did start, one of the first to be drafted was the men going into the seminaries and they closed the seminaries after drafting them.

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That is why they need to distract the masses with the celebrity culture, the minimum wage raises irked , the supposed free and equal healthcare eyepopping boggled irked , the president's wife's extravagant lifestyle and wardrobe and most of all with the plight of the gays. How else are they going to pass their agenda unnoticed and or keep the masses uneducated? People need ot wake up and take note and Catholics need to learn to support and love each other. That is the only thing that is going to help us survive this and be able to pass the faith on to the coming generations. We do not need to beat them we just need to make sure that the beauty and the purity of our Church survives.

Mar 6th 2013 new

(Quote) Steven-706921 said: When you have enough bullets to pump five rounds into every man, woman, and child in th...
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When you have enough bullets to pump five rounds into every man, woman, and child in the US and still have enough for a hundred million extra, you need that special (and armored) something to shoot it from with impunity.

Our "dear leader" is preparing for civil war, and he's playing for keeps!

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I agree Steven. Now that he is in his final term, he will be determined to push his socialist agenda to the max. These vehicles are perfect for street use should they be needed in the case of civil unrest. Obama is trying his best to disarm America, and to make her dependent on government by claiming to "equalize" society for the have-nots. Looking back on the election, it is clear that the nation is very politically divided with the liberal factions on each coast and the Great Lakes area, opposed by the conservative factions in interior regions and the South and Southwest. These could be the boundries of a new U.S. should a great secession occur. Kind of sounds like that's exactly what Obama's preparing for.

Mar 6th 2013 new

(Quote) Tom-54311 said: Who cares whether they are tanks or not. They are armored vehicles that governments use to q...
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Who cares whether they are tanks or not. They are armored vehicles that governments use to quash riots...food riots? Christians rounded up?...

Why does Motherland Security need so many of them?


The current Occupiers of the federal government wouldn't want to get too specific,as in presenting a budget, now would they.

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So was Christopher Dorner a "food rioter?" What noble cause was he a valiant martyr for? Or is your hatred of government so intense and burning that the fact that he was out killing cops prima facie evidence that he must have been doing God's work?

Are all employees of the government, even local government, devils incarnate who deserve to die? If not, then perhaps Dorner demonstrates a legitimate need for protection against small-arms fire.

Mar 6th 2013 new

(Quote) Tom-54311 said: Who cares whether they are tanks or not. They are armored vehicles that governments use to q...
(Quote) Tom-54311 said:



Who cares whether they are tanks or not. They are armored vehicles that governments use to quash riots...food riots? Christians rounded up?...

Why does Motherland Security need so many of them?


The current Occupiers of the federal government wouldn't want to get too specific,as in presenting a budget, now would they.

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As to your question about who care whether they are tanks or not, you are missing the point. The question is why do conspiracy theory types feel the compulsion to constantly disregard reality? But perhaps you really aren't missing the point, maybe you're demonstrating it. To the conspiracy theory type, the truth doesn't actually matter: all that is important is the accusation. "They," be it the government, or the Illuminati or the Jews, or whoever must be up to something. Everything has a secret, sinister purpose. All events must be given an evil spin.

Don't you think it's more than a little ironic that when Obama or whoever gets caught in any misstatement of fact, it's proof that he is part of a lying conspiracy of evil, but when the conspiracy theory people get caught in a misstatement of fact the response is "who cares? Even if we're lying we're still telling the truth about the evil government."

Mar 6th 2013 new

(Quote) Con-888377 said: Well the point is, your country is being internally and externally being manipulated to fail at the...
(Quote) Con-888377 said:

Well the point is, your country is being internally and externally being manipulated to fail at the basic level of human interaction. Part evidence is when a government starts arming itself against the people they represent is probably the only indicator they can't mask. I don't understand what your objecting to. You got bogged down with the Tanks element and that doesn't matter a pile of Blow Fly Do Do's when it comes down to it. This armament acquiring frenzy of your government is unexplainable in the light of down scaling the USA presence overseas. What do you think all these munitions are for. Why would someone waste taxpayers money on a whim or , "OH it's a bargain give me 7 Transport ships full!" If you look into history, and only a little way I might add, the pattern is there in relation to seizing absolute control and creating a dictator ship. Now your blood pressure might go up but bare with me. One Adolph Hitler surrounded himself with renegade Catholics, whom saw themselves as enlightened modern believers. The Jews were demonised, Gypsies were seen as human vermin, disabled were seen as useless and for their own good, euthanasia was seen as the best solution. They justified their views as economically responsible with the added benefit of relieving suffering. This is a line of thinking that euthanases their conscience. They tell themselves they are good people and tough decisions have to be made for the good of all. That is what is going down in the USA today. Truly active committed Catholics that uphold the Churhes teaching are seen as dangerous conscience stirrers that for the good of society need to be shut down. Notre Dame is a case in point of Catholic traitors selling out and calling themselves progressives. There are Theologians there that are massively out of step with the Churches Teaching. They even ridicule that which is morally bound and that which is non negotiable. Belief required to be a functioning member and not a dissenting member. You can't tun up for duty in the Marines or Navy Seals dressed in a Tu Tu and say, "I'm a progressive, it's my conscientous belief!" No one believed it could happen to the Jews, people who spoke up were seen as hysterical Chiken Little's. Even today there are fools that won't believe it happened. I wonder where they think the 6 million are hiding??Now to jerk back to the present, the rhetoric has started, the demonising of groups has started. There is unusual movements of arms and munitions. Look around there are other more troubling signs being uncovered by people with military training that require investigation. I'll leave it there for the moment. This is not fanciful scaremongering. The Light Militery Vehicles can be touched, the bullets are real and as one CM observer noted there are thousands of tanks in Large groups sitting idle. Oh that's right, its probably an Army Drive In theatre.

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My objection is that you are taking a bunch of facts in isolation and turning them into some wacky conspiracy theory without the slightest shred of actual connection.

At any given moment in human history, there have always been any number of bad things going on, and and even greater number of innocuous things going on. Not everything that happened in the past is a massive conspiracy, and there is no reason to believe things are any different today. I'm sure in the late 18th century some Indian shot at a Frenchman in North America. That doesn't meant the Indians were part of some conspiracy for or against the French Revolution.

The military stores old hardware in the desert. So what? It's been doing that since before I was born. When a tank or plane is replaced by a newer one, does it makes sense to immediately destroy the old ones, or go park it someplace? It takes a lot more time an effort to build tanks and planes today than it did in WWI or WWII. If a major war were to break out, the need for replacement equipment would quickly outstrip our ability to build it. Why wouldn't you want to field an older model rather than nothing at all?

There are bad "Catholic" theologians running around. So what? They've been doing that for longer than the U.S. has existed as a nation. How does that prove that Obama or any other politician is planning something evil?

There are leftists doing what leftists do. So what? How is that any different than 1848 when Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto?

The military is transferring surplus hardware to other agencies. So what? They've been doing that for longer than I've been alive. Is it really a waste of taxpayer money to keep items that have been bought in paid for in the government inventory, or would it make more sense to just throw them away?

You've got a bunch of facts in isolation, none of which is particularly unexplainable or even all that ominus. If you want to build a coherent argument that somebody is up to something, you need to string them together with something other than an assumption that there is a conspiracy.

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