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03/31/2013 new

(Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Marianne et alia,Your one sentence "definition" using the same word t...
(Quote) James-17080 said:



Hi Marianne et alia,

Your one sentence "definition" using the same word to define itself is not a definition. Explain how a socialist acts, and what he believes, and what he expects of others.

James ☺

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haha today I think socialism means socializing losses and privatizing gains. Defining socialism could take up an entire thesis paper. Unfortunately "socialism" gets used as a buzzword to criticize anything conservatives don't like, while liberals use the word "fascist" to do the same.

03/31/2013 new

(Quote) Sean-851370 said: (Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Marianne et alia,Your one sent...
(Quote) Sean-851370 said:

Quote:
James-17080 said:



Hi Marianne et alia,

Your one sentence "definition" using the same word to define itself is not a definition. Explain how a socialist acts, and what he believes, and what he expects of others.

James ☺





haha today I think socialism means socializing losses and privatizing gains. Defining socialism could take up an entire thesis paper. Unfortunately "socialism" gets used as a buzzword to criticize anything conservatives don't like, while liberals use the word "fascist" to do the same.

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Hi Sean et alia,

I agree, socialism is a buzzword used by conservatives to describe anything they don't like, especially taxes and Obama. Of course, when it encroaches on their own turf, then it isn't socialism (like subsidized university education and bailouts). The hypocrisy of this line of thinking is breathtaking. I used to see the word "fascist" thrown around back in the 1060s. I don't visit far-left websites for the same reason I don't visit far-right websites: it's a waste of my time.

There's one thing I forgot to address up above that I'll address now: the notion that tax-exempt organizations are influencing American culture and politics. Somebody brought up the idea that anything that affects the American economy should not be tax-exempt. There are serious problems with this idea. Does anybody think it is a good idea to tax the American Cancer Society or the American Lung Association? A valid argument could be made by the tobacco companies that they are affecting the American economy by discouraging people from smoking. Tobacco farmers and the tobacco in industry rake in billions of dollars from people using their product, and until recently have won every lawsuit in which a plaintiff has charged them with giving them cancer. Universities (almost all of which are tax-exempt) could end up in endless litigation because some one or group could claim that a professor is affecting the American economic system by his editorializing. On the other hand, foundations like the George C. Marshall and the Heartland Institute could be sued for the same reason.

An alternative is to make nobody tax-exempt. And maybe this is an idea that is worth considering.

James ☺

03/31/2013 new

I don't know about abolishing tax-exempt status for anything that affects the American economy, considering that it's almost impossible to find any entity that doesn't affect the economy. Regardless, tax-exempt foundations have been a problem for many decades. The exploits of entities such as the Ford Foundation are sometimes almost too bizarre to comprehend. Nevertheless, the general theme apparently always tends to involve devising very elaborate programs to influence and exploit the public for the benefit of a very small number of incredibly wealthy people. I don't know much about the American Cancer Society or Lung Society. I imagine that the focus on tobacco companies is meant to be a diversion from other, less obvious causes of illness in the US. My own take on American society is that most people in this country do not look much beyond appearances.



(Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Sean et alia,I agree, socialism is a buzzword used by conservatives to describe...
(Quote) James-17080 said:



Hi Sean et alia,

I agree, socialism is a buzzword used by conservatives to describe anything they don't like, especially taxes and Obama. Of course, when it encroaches on their own turf, then it isn't socialism (like subsidized university education and bailouts). The hypocrisy of this line of thinking is breathtaking. I used to see the word "fascist" thrown around back in the 1060s. I don't visit far-left websites for the same reason I don't visit far-right websites: it's a waste of my time.

There's one thing I forgot to address up above that I'll address now: the notion that tax-exempt organizations are influencing American culture and politics. Somebody brought up the idea that anything that affects the American economy should not be tax-exempt. There are serious problems with this idea. Does anybody think it is a good idea to tax the American Cancer Society or the American Lung Association? A valid argument could be made by the tobacco companies that they are affecting the American economy by discouraging people from smoking. Tobacco farmers and the tobacco in industry rake in billions of dollars from people using their product, and until recently have won every lawsuit in which a plaintiff has charged them with giving them cancer. Universities (almost all of which are tax-exempt) could end up in endless litigation because some one or group could claim that a professor is affecting the American economic system by his editorializing. On the other hand, foundations like the George C. Marshall and the Heartland Institute could be sued for the same reason.

An alternative is to make nobody tax-exempt. And maybe this is an idea that is worth considering.

James ☺

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03/31/2013 new

(Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Sean et alia,I agree, socialism is a buzzword used by conservatives to describe...
(Quote) James-17080 said:



Hi Sean et alia,

I agree, socialism is a buzzword used by conservatives to describe anything they don't like, especially taxes and Obama. Of course, when it encroaches on their own turf, then it isn't socialism (like subsidized university education and bailouts). The hypocrisy of this line of thinking is breathtaking. I used to see the word "fascist" thrown around back in the 1060s. I don't visit far-left websites for the same reason I don't visit far-right websites: it's a waste of my time.

There's one thing I forgot to address up above that I'll address now: the notion that tax-exempt organizations are influencing American culture and politics. Somebody brought up the idea that anything that affects the American economy should not be tax-exempt. There are serious problems with this idea. Does anybody think it is a good idea to tax the American Cancer Society or the American Lung Association? A valid argument could be made by the tobacco companies that they are affecting the American economy by discouraging people from smoking. Tobacco farmers and the tobacco in industry rake in billions of dollars from people using their product, and until recently have won every lawsuit in which a plaintiff has charged them with giving them cancer. Universities (almost all of which are tax-exempt) could end up in endless litigation because some one or group could claim that a professor is affecting the American economic system by his editorializing. On the other hand, foundations like the George C. Marshall and the Heartland Institute could be sued for the same reason.

An alternative is to make nobody tax-exempt. And maybe this is an idea that is worth considering.

James ☺

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Come on James, you are only 58, a mere pup, so you could not have been around in the 1060s to hear the word "Fascist" thrown around. And even if you were, the word would not have been used a thousand years ago!!!!! laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing

I know, I know, you meant the 1960s, but I just could not pass that one up. Its just tooooooo hilarious.

03/31/2013 new

(Quote) Paul-866591 said: (Quote) James-17080 said: Hi Sean et alia,I agree, socialis...
(Quote) Paul-866591 said:

Quote:
James-17080 said:



Hi Sean et alia,

I agree, socialism is a buzzword used by conservatives to describe anything they don't like, especially taxes and Obama. Of course, when it encroaches on their own turf, then it isn't socialism (like subsidized university education and bailouts). The hypocrisy of this line of thinking is breathtaking. I used to see the word "fascist" thrown around back in the 1060s. I don't visit far-left websites for the same reason I don't visit far-right websites: it's a waste of my time.

There's one thing I forgot to address up above that I'll address now: the notion that tax-exempt organizations are influencing American culture and politics. Somebody brought up the idea that anything that affects the American economy should not be tax-exempt. There are serious problems with this idea. Does anybody think it is a good idea to tax the American Cancer Society or the American Lung Association? A valid argument could be made by the tobacco companies that they are affecting the American economy by discouraging people from smoking. Tobacco farmers and the tobacco in industry rake in billions of dollars from people using their product, and until recently have won every lawsuit in which a plaintiff has charged them with giving them cancer. Universities (almost all of which are tax-exempt) could end up in endless litigation because some one or group could claim that a professor is affecting the American economic system by his editorializing. On the other hand, foundations like the George C. Marshall and the Heartland Institute could be sued for the same reason.

An alternative is to make nobody tax-exempt. And maybe this is an idea that is worth considering.

James ☺


Come on James, you are only 58, a mere pup, so you could not have been around in the 1060s to hear the word "Fascist" thrown around. And even if you were, the word would not have been used a thousand years ago!!!!!

I know, I know, you meant the 1960s, but I just could not pass that one up. Its just tooooooo hilarious.

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Hmmmmmm. At least you read it. And you are right, I typed a zero instead of a nine. It should be 1960s. Oh well...

James ☺

04/04/2013 new

(Quote) Sean-851370 said: Have you or has anyone else read Alinsky's Rules for Radicals? I've thought about...
(Quote) Sean-851370 said:

Have you or has anyone else read Alinsky's Rules for Radicals? I've thought about picking it up.


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Sean: I have the book. It is not very big. It was not very interesting either. I can't even remember
much of it.

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