(Quote) ED-20630 said:
You use a whole lot of fancy and flowery $5.00 words and phrases trying to convey...
(Quote) ED-20630 said:
You use a whole lot of fancy and flowery $5.00 words and phrases trying to convey and expound upon your various points while trying to convince others of the correctness of you views and analyses... But you will really box yourself into a very small (acceptable) world indeed with your attitudes and condescension towards genuine people of other faiths as you proceed through the rest of your life. I can't imagine that someone from another religion would ever see the value of converting to Catholicism after a having a conversation with you. That is very, very unfortunate. I hope that you begin to see the value of genuine people of faith outside of your very small box as you get older.
Further discussion of your various points would be quite fruitless at this point in time... so I will pass on it.
Just my thoughts.
What are you talking about, "other faiths"? There is only one faith, just as there is one Lord and one Baptism (Ephesians 4:5). There aren't genuine people of faith outside that one faith...that is a contradiction.
Just as St. Thomas Aquinas, the Angelic Doctor, showed us in his Summa:
"...Neither living nor lifeless faith remains in a heretic who disbelieves one article of faith.
"The reason of this is that the species of every habit depends on the formal aspect of the object, without which the species of the habit cannot remain. Now the formal object of faith is the First Truth, as manifested in Holy Writ and the teaching of the Church, which proceeds from the First Truth. Consequently whoever does not adhere, as to an infallible and Divine rule, to the teaching of the Church, which proceeds from the First Truth manifested in Holy Writ, has not the habit of faith, but holds that which is of faith otherwise than by faith. Even so, it is evident that a man whose mind holds a conclusion without knowing how it is proved, has not scientific knowledge, but merely an opinion about it. Now it is manifest that he who adheres to the teaching of the Church, as to an infallible rule, assents to whatever the Church teaches; otherwise, if, of the things taught by the Church, he holds what he chooses to hold, and rejects what he chooses to reject, he no longer adheres to the teaching of the Church as to an infallible rule, but to his own will. Hence it is evident that a heretic who obstinately disbelieves one article of faith, is not prepared to follow the teaching of the Church in all things; but if he is not obstinate, he is no longer in heresy but only in error. Therefore it is clear that such a heretic with regard to one article has no faith in the other articles, but only a kind of opinion in accordance with his own will."
This is not about "us" being inherently better than "them" in regard to those people who profess to be Catholic versus those who choose to protest against Catholicism. This is about what is true above and below it all. Personally, I'd rather be on the side of the True and the Truth, than on the side of warm and fuzzy and false.