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Apr 12th 2013 new

I think it does not matter, but you should be able to buy what you want as long as it's food. It would be nice if the stores sold box lunches and dinner for them.

Apr 12th 2013 new
(Quote) Susan-760860 said: Consider this: A woman has 3 kids, she works 2 full time minimum wage jobs. Her kids are basically latch key ...
(Quote) Susan-760860 said:

Consider this: A woman has 3 kids, she works 2 full time minimum wage jobs. Her kids are basically latch key kids. She finally gets a Friday night off (after working all day). She is going to go home and enjoy the luxury of watching videos with her kids. Going to the movie theatre, out to dinner, or just about any kind of outing is not financially possible. She stops at the store for groceries and also buys ice cream, chips and soda. True, it will cut into her grocery money, but her kids rarely get treats (like other kids) and after working 70 hours this week she's feeling a little indulgent. There really are many working families that get Food Stamps.

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Welcome to the Current Events threads, Susan.

Actually, I was going to comment on that exact case scenario/exception from the onset of this discussion, but didn't get around to posting my thought. For that one isolated innocent example, I agree. However, the reason I say "no" is that the answer to the question is more far-reaching than the one occasional scenario you set forth.

Socialism and the Nanny State mentality has a strong foothold in our country. We are nearly $17 trillion dollars in National Debt. www.usdebtclock.org While there are good Americans using the system as it was intended, the misuse, abuse, and waste surrounding these programs is horrendous. The "entitlement" attitude is alive and well and growing. There are lazy able-bodied people who do not have a legitimate reason to be unemployed. They are not using the system as a safety net, but a way of life. I suspect those who are abusing the system as exemplified with the Obamaphones, using the EBT card at bars, strip joints, etc. are abusing the system in other ways, too. The "My EBT" rap song exemplifies it perfectly. It's not just little children getting chips, pop, and snickers bars on rare special occasions. Americans shouldn't be required to work and pay for someone else's chips, soda, and snicker bars. I wonder collectively what the grand total per year would tally for such items.
Apr 12th 2013 new

(Quote) Susan-760860 said: Having worked at the Dept Of Health & Human Services (Welfare Dept) for 20+ years I could go ...
(Quote) Susan-760860 said:

Having worked at the Dept Of Health & Human Services (Welfare Dept) for 20+ years I could go on and on and on about the abuses I have seen, but, instead, I'd just like to make a couple comments regarding Food Stamps.

Consider this: A woman has 3 kids, she works 2 full time minimum wage jobs. Her kids are basically latch key kids. She finally gets a Friday night off (after working all day). She is going to go home and enjoy the luxury of watching videos with her kids. Going to the movie theatre, out to dinner, or just about any kind of outing is not financially possible. She stops at the store for groceries and also buys ice cream, chips and soda. True, it will cut into her grocery money, but her kids rarely get treats (like other kids) and after working 70 hours this week she's feeling a little indulgent. The 2 well dressed women with the fat wedding rings on that are in the check out line behind her make no attempt to mask their disgust at this shameful waste of thier tax dollars.

There really are many working families that get Food Stamps. 70% of the jobs that are being created are expected to be minimum wage jobs. No one can support a family on $7.25 an hour. I don't have an answer to that problem, but are those people less deserving to have a few treats than the rest of us?


As for the government telling me or anyone else what they can or cannot eat, I am totally against that. In the county where I live there is currently a great effort to educate people on healthier food choices. Food Stamp recipients get bonus bucks for extra food at the Farmer's Market and coupons for free produce at some of the local grocery stores.


Gosh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to preach. Just saying you never know about that person at the grocery store using Food Stamps (EBT)

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No one wants to deny anyone a few treats.

Apr 12th 2013 new
I already feel bad that people are on food stamps, so let them buy whatever comforts them. hersheyskiss cookie Happy Birthday!
Apr 12th 2013 new

(Quote) Meg-920823 said: Hi, Susan...You have good points about treats and I certainly hope families who have to be on food...
(Quote) Meg-920823 said:

Hi, Susan...You have good points about treats and I certainly hope families who have to be on food stamps also have some fun things to eat. I am simply saying that when on assistance from tax dollars, the most should be made of that benefit. Extras can come from the voluntary and charitable generosity of others. I hope and pray that we all rise to the occasion of helping those who are having difficulties. Whether we or the people in line behind us have a lot of money, or a little, we can give of the time and resources we have. Food pantries, kitchens and special drives can always use volunteers and donations.

Perhaps it is really an issue of where government/tax dollars should end and private giving should begin.

'Before government can give us everything we want, they must first take everything we have.'
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What is that quote, Meg? It is probably a communist one.

I think a good point that you are making is that voluntary and charitable donations should help people
who have no food. I do not feel it is the job of Uncle Sam to provide food. And if donations were given
to the needy, there would be a lot more of the money given directly to the poor, not pilfered out by
the government.

If someone next to me needed food, I would be glad to help them, after I responsibility fed my family first.
I would not be much of a Christian if I took care of others, but let my family go hungary.

Apr 12th 2013 new

(Quote) Frank-410833 said: I already feel bad that people are on food stamps, so let them buy whatever comforts them.
(Quote) Frank-410833 said: I already feel bad that people are on food stamps, so let them buy whatever comforts them.
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Why would you feel bad that people are on food stamps? Food stamps are a postive thing.

You should feel bad that they are poor or don't have enough money for food, but food stamps are
a gift from the taxpayers.

Apr 12th 2013 new
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said: Why would you feel bad that people are on food stamps? Food stamps are a postive thing.You ...
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said:



Why would you feel bad that people are on food stamps? Food stamps are a postive thing.

You should feel bad that they are poor or don't have enough money for food, but food stamps are
a gift from the taxpayers.

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Well, you just kind of answered your own question. You have to be poor to be on them to begin with.
Apr 12th 2013 new

(Quote) Marian-83994 said: There are some who investigate welfare fraud. Perhaps adding this concern to their cases ...
(Quote) Marian-83994 said:



There are some who investigate welfare fraud. Perhaps adding this concern to their cases would be a way to clean up the use of that money.

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Marian: Welfare fraud investigators have enough to worry about. That food stamp card should just reject the
unhealthy food at the scanner if that is possible. Otherwise, it is too hard to patrol.

Apr 12th 2013 new

(Quote) Frank-410833 said: Well, you just kind of answered your own question. You have to be poor to be on them to begin wi...
(Quote) Frank-410833 said:

Well, you just kind of answered your own question. You have to be poor to be on them to begin with.
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That is not what you wrote. If you meant that, you should write that.

Apr 12th 2013 new
(Quote) Marianne-100218 said: That is not what you wrote. If you meant that, you should write that.
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That is not what you wrote. If you meant that, you should write that.

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Well what else would it mean. Common sense.
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