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I wish I were as intelligent and mature as Felicity when I was her age. I admire you Felicity. Regardless of my past sins, I don't think I would have ever said I thought the churches teaching on this matter were wrong. At one point, I would have said no to the contraception, but not now. But it is all by God's grace that I have since been able to align my other questions of mine in accord with the church doctrine.
I've previously heard the past transgressions reasoning to answer no to the pre-marital sex question before. But for the life of me, I can't understand it. I don't mean to be offensive, but it actually seems illogical, or essentially, unintelligent to me. No matter what a persons past or present sexual activity, I would tend to respect someone more who answered with a yes, because that is their honest belief about what they think God wants. That would apply even if they were still committing the sin so long as they were struggling to come to terms with resolving their temptations. If they answer no just because of past transgressions, that is deceitful and nothing else. I'm sorry if all this offends anybody, but I hope instead it convinces some to eventually change their response to what they actually believe. If someone can't answer what they truly believe, then how can I trust them with the most important of questions?
But, what gets me even more is the occasional negative response to the sanctity of life question. Not even comprehensible on this site. I've even run into a couple girls who have had no on all 7 answers. But with God, there's hope for all of us. Well, maybe not Obama, but all the rest of us :-)
God killed Onan cos he spilled his seed.
The punishment for avoiding the responsibiility of fathering your dead brother's kid wasn't death, it was a telling off from your father, then a telling off from the Rabbi, then a social chastisement, then still if in refusal, you were kicked out of the community. This shows us God isn't happy about people contracepting.
Contraception vs. NFP boils down to two things, working with what gives us, and intention.
God built in the woman's reproductive cycles, with fertile and infertile times, there is no sin taking advantage of the infertile times, because the couple is still open to life. Granted, NFP can still be used sinfully, like a defacto "catholic contraception".
There are three people in a marriage, Man, WOman and God. During the sex act man brings sperm, woman brings ovum, God brings soul. Contraception blocks out God completely. And it places a barrier between man and woman. Marriage and sex are meant to be fully open and fully giving and fully receiving, contraception blocks from other the gift of one's fertilty. If one partner is contracepting, they are holding back a part of themselves. That is not the mutal giving of entire self marriage was designed for.
Post menopausal and infertile spouses are moot, as contraception for the sake of contraception has no point.
Scripturally and theologically one can [ignorantly] debate contraception, but the Bible is cut and dry clear on fornication and its rammifications. Fornication is wrong becaue the couple are telling porkies with their bodies, they are engaged in an act meant for marriage, not for single life boredom. Furthermore, marriage at its essence is an entire surrender to the other spouse, and by engaging in the sexual act they are expressing that. For a single couple to fornicate, they are in serious error, as if they were prepared to give to each other fully as is happening in the sex act, they'd get married first.
Plus, the statistics on fornication leading into divorce once married are quite worrying. Want to protect your future marriage, don't fornicate.