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The story of Abraham and Sarah is told in chapters 11-25 of the book of Genesis.
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Talk to your local tribunal office for all the information you need for your particular situation. This is so important, I can't say it enough. Everyone's situation is unique & every diocese is unique as to the details: time frame, cost, questionnaires, etc. Go to the source!
The fee associated with the process can, in some minds, be characterized as "buying an annulment". So I try to disabuse them of that notion. I explain actual costs are much higher than standard fees. All the fee does it help defray some costs.
and was feeling unsettled and attacked.
I attended a reconciliation service last year and that was a true blessing and strongly recommend it to anyone struggling with feelings of sadness, failure and guilt. God bless you all on your journeys.
Not even His Apostles were perfect....I give you Judas, the betrayer, Peter, the denier...and swordsman, James and John, who, represented by their mother were ambitious, Thomas, the doubter...and probably more
There have been troubles in the Church from the beginning, e.g., the division of food amongst the widows and indigent, with the gentiles complaining the jewish widows were getting more. Jerusalem wanting the gentile converts circumcized and Paul and Barnabas going there to argue the contrary......
Some of the Churches Paul established needed frequent correction...etc etc etc
So, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, we have a Church led by men, and they have, throughout two milennia, made mistakes, but we survive.
As to annulment, a gift from God, which is a process through which a declaration of "sacramental" or "not sacramental" is made by a tribunal of humans, reviewing evidence and testimony from either liars or truth-tellers with differing perspectives, I'm sure there have been errors.
God will judge those who deliberately lied, and those tribunal members who did their jobs improperly.
None of that takes away from the wonderful gift of God's Love in giving us a Church with the authority to declare that some have made mistakes but they are sacramentally married, while others are declared, for a variety of reasons, to be civilly married, but not as a Sacrament.
I think anyone contemplating the process ought to pray for guidance and understanding and tell the truth and submit themselves to the judgement of the forum God established....as fallible as its human participants make it.
I'm annulled....twice...and grateful
I have friend who is a cursillo leader, Rel Ed teacher, very good and faithful, but has been married 4 times and had her first 3 annulled because of the immaturity, abuse, pressure at the times of her first 3 marriages. She had a horrid life and never really was ready for marriage or any adult decisions until she finally grew in understanding and closeness to God.
Right now her husband is becoming a permanent deacon and she is part of that and a very different person than she was during her first 3 marriages.
The red flags always show up when they decide I'm going to hear all about their kids, especially early on in the friendship, and honestly, I have no kids, what on earth what I have to relate to in that regards? Moving on from there, something deep inside of me, moves me to not consider an annulment to be a license to remarry. It just rubs me the wrong way when I hear in almost all cases, the original marriage vows are what are being broken. These are stemmed in almost all cases because the couple decided to forgoe the traditional manner of courting, they just jump right in, and wonder why things went wrong.. If you really get to know that person, you will know their friends, relatives, their reputation, and it will be no mystery along what to expect down the road.
Just my two cents, for what it's worth, but it's why I will not date anybody who is divorced, annulled, or otherwise, especially if they have children. I want my own, and i am not raising someone else s kids, for every time they look at them, they are reminded of what and who they had in the past, there never is clear separation in that regards.