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May 24th 2013 new
(quote) Marianne-100218 said: ...

Jerry: What is your opinion about how they are calling the case a "workplace shooting," and not a
"terrorist attack?" And why has it taken so long since 2009, to bring this case to court? Would you
know that?



It's absurd to deny that this is terrorism.

Unfortunately, it seems par for the course for major cases to take years to work through the courts. It would require a major (and long overdue) overhaul of the system to fix that.
May 25th 2013 new
(quote) John-336509 said: Again, you can't punish somebody for a crime until they have been found guilty in a competent court of law. Until a court-martial says he's guilty of something, they can't strip him of his rank or salary.
I wish that his salary could have been put in escrow or at least kept from him
while he is in Leavenworth.

This probably won't even happen because in case he had a family to support, they
would be deprived of his earnings.
May 25th 2013 new
(quote) John-336509 said: It's absurd to deny that this is terrorism.

Unfortunately, it seems par for the course for major cases to take years to work through the courts. It would require a major (and long overdue) overhaul of the system to fix that.
I wonder if "workplace incident" is the official charge being waged against Hasan
or if it can be changed to terrorist attack?

It seems that our current administration's position against calling terrorism,
terrorism, has infiltrated the military also.

After the incident in London with the murder of the military man, it seems
that things are escalating in the world as far as Jihad is going. It is time to
start calling a spade a spade.
May 25th 2013 new
(quote) Marianne-100218 said: I wonder if "workplace incident" is the official charge being waged against Hasan
or if it can be changed to terrorist attack?

It seems that our current administration's position against calling terrorism,
terrorism, has infiltrated the military also.

After the incident in London with the murder of the military man, it seems
that things are escalating in the world as far as Jihad is going. It is time to
start calling a spade a spade.
It's really a political distinction, not a legal one; he 'll be charged with murder either way. The UCMJ doesn't care all that much about the details. The only difference this distinction would make would be if they wanted to go for treason.
May 30th 2013 new
So, what in the world is taking them so long....it has been ages and everyone knows he is guilty though they tried to hide that it was terrorist/muslim related.
May 31st 2013 new
(quote) Cheryl-409772 said: So, what in the world is taking them so long....it has been ages and everyone knows he is guilty though they tried to hide that it was terrorist/muslim related.
It's not unusual for even simple murder cases to take a year or two to make it to court. This one is going to be more complicated and will probably involve a competent defense attorney who is likely doing some real work.

The investigators have no doubt brought in any number of different types of forensic examiners. There will be the crime scene guys and ballistic guys. They will probably have gotten done fairly fast. Then there will no doubt be quite a few computers and email accounts that got combed through. The defendant presumambly at a minimum had a work computer, a computer at home, and a cell phone. Of course, he might have had a couple work computers and half a dozen ones at home. Probably some google or yahoo accounts that needed to be acquired.

In addition to the forensics, there would have been a ton of interviews to do. All of the defendant's co-workers, friends and family would have gotten a visit. There would have been multiple people associated with each of the victims that got interviewed.

Then after CID got done with their investigation, the defense likely has their own experts going over all the evidence a second time. They also would have been seeing what holes they could poke in the CID work.

Then the prosecutors would give the defense expert's reports to their own exports to see what holes were there.

After all that, the lawyers on both sides have to read everything and figure out how to build their cases.

I'm not saying it couldn't be done faster, but there is legitimately a lot to do.
May 31st 2013 new
(quote) John-336509 said: It's absurd to deny that this is terrorism.

Unfortunately, it seems par for the course for major cases to take years to work through the courts. It would require a major (and long overdue) overhaul of the system to fix that.
Back in the early 60's when I was in the Army, it did not take long for even serious cases to get tried by Courts Martial. Apparently the long delays that were always prevalent in civilian Courts has now infected the military as well.
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