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Jun 19th 2013 new
(quote) Paul-866591 said: Wayward Bishops have existed in the Church since the time of the Apostles. There have even been far more turbulent times in the Church in the past.

So, in itself, it is no more a sign of the end times then was the Mayan Calendar idiocies last year.

One thing is almost certain: your personal end time is far more likely to happen than the ultimate end. So stop worrying about the end of the world and just worry about your own end. And that applies,even if the end of the world were to occur tomorrow.

Your only concern should be your end.
I'm sorry that I loaded that in such language. What I meant to say is by that is that while there were more (90% of the bishops went with the Arian heresy by some accounts), it cannot be denied that the dragon's tail has swept down many bishops and clergy from their heavenly duties.

While most are not in formal heresy or apostasy, there is a spirit of fear and timidity amongst many. That is not to say that the end is tomorrow; it is to acknowledge things in a spiritual light.

That is also to trust in God's providence, because the same chapter also depicts the Church's rescue from this evil. Let's not despise prophecy, especially when it's part of Sacred Scripture, but hold to what is good.
Jun 20th 2013 new
The Church in this country had become extremely corrupt by the middle of the last century. So the pro-death culture of the establishment was finally able to overwhelm the Church in the 60s.
Jun 22nd 2013 new
(quote) Sean-851370 said: The Church in this country had become extremely corrupt by the middle of the last century. So the pro-death culture of the establishment was finally able to overwhelm the Church in the 60s.
Also, just as our Lord's Passion was precipitated by a Judas, so the Passion of the Church will be instigated, and perhaps has been, by Judas' inside the Church.


Jun 24th 2013 new
(quote) Paul-866591 said: Wayward Bishops have existed in the Church since the time of the Apostles. There have even been far more turbulent times in the Church in the past.

So, in itself, it is no more a sign of the end times then was the Mayan Calendar idiocies last year.

One thing is almost certain: your personal end time is far more likely to happen than the ultimate end. So stop worrying about the end of the world and just worry about your own end. And that applies,even if the end of the world were to occur tomorrow.

Your only concern should be your end.
You are the voice of reason, Paul. Well said.
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